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    Emergency On The Range: Are You Prepared?

    My friend Yuriy B. was at a USPSA match last Sunday when the worst case scenario happened. Someone got shot.
    I was 4 stages in, just starting the 5th stage when something tragic happened today at a USPSA match. A guy on another squad caught a projectile in the chest. I’m not 100% sure what exactly happened, but it was bad. Lots of blood, went into shock and became unconscious. With a hundred panicked people with many who ran over to help, some with med kits, but only a couple knew what to actually do to try to keep the guy vital until paramedics arrived.

    Now driving home it really got me to thinking…. how many carry proper med kits for gun shot wounds, and if so do you have any real training on how to use it when the crap hits the fan?

    My answer is no, and I plan on changing that soon as this was a real eye opener that the sport/ hobby we do is in fact very dangerous and shit happens.

    According to a fellow shooter at the same match:
    Here is the setup. 5 bays with concrete barriers separating each bay. He was pasting targets in bay 3 while another shooter was running and gunning stage 4. A round managed to ricochet thru a crack in the concrete barrier striking him in the chest.


    Another shooter posted this
    From what was told is that it entered just below his nipple, possibly deflected off of a rib and exited near the clavicle (possibly breaking it.) All speculation as to the extent of his injuries, but they had a stethoscope on him, and said he sounded normal.

    Back when I was shooting USPSA in NY, the range we used had similar bays just narrower. However one aspect to the concrete bays is that it LIMITED our ability to shoot left and right. We knew better than to set up targets at oblique angles with concrete directly behind them.

    It seems the problem is the stage design. In Yuriy’s video there are some targets that are at the right angle that you are shooting directly into the concrete wall. Poor planning. Concrete walls are not supposed to be back stops.They are there in the odd case someone misses and a ricochet is caught by the wall. You are not supposed to deliberately shoot at the wall.

    So far the reports say that the victim is fine. There are things to consider when shooting at a range with other shooters such as a USPSA match. Most matches are just a bunch of members of the club who organize and design stages. However some of them do not have complete safety briefings nor medical training for problems. I recall at a recent local match the match director making a point to call out a designated person for just an eventuality. They would be the person to get the first aid kit and authorities would contact them. However how many of us really know what to do? I see some shooters actually carrying tourniquets on their range belts. Nothing wrong with that but it does not help when you get shot in the chest. Quikclot is better than nothing but we should seek proper training. Do you know what to do if someone gets shot?

    My friend Yuriy B. was at a USPSA match last Sunday when the worst case scenario happened. Someone got shot. I was 4 stages in, just starting the 5th stage when something tragic happened today at a USPSA match. A guy on another squad caught a projectile in the chest. I’m not 100% sure what … Read More …

    #2
    I know I'm definitely not prepared for something like this. Don't even have the materials required to treat a gun shot wound.
    “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." - Benjamin Franklin

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      #3
      Oooof, jeez. A lack of medical preparedness, I certainly fall into that category.

      This feels like the kinda things LIGC can solve pretty easily. Can't we find 12-24 guys willing to raise enough cash to buy out a training center with staff for a one-day corporate training event?
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        #4
        Whenever a group gets together, medical training of the group should be discussed and at least one member should be designated medical officer. There is usually a few Emts in any group. Foosel asks this at the start of his classes. I carry a small trauma kit to the bench and keep a larger .response bag in my car.

        Eta: dam autocorrect

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          #5
          I've have a small trauma kit in/on my range bag since I started shooting. I started with some very simple bleeding control items in a zip loc bag. I.e. Gause bandages and wrap, triangular bandages, and occlusive dressings.
          I've upgraded to an inexpensive condor rip away emt pouch and added a cat tourniquet quick clot and sheers.

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            #6
            I always have an Advanced Aid Bag in my Jeep, it's basically what a Corpsman carries with some extra thrown in.
            Last edited by roadraje; 06-18-2016, 09:30 AM.

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              #7
              Would be cool if someone had connections so we could organize a class and stuff. We should all know at least the basics...it may save someone's life some day.
              “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." - Benjamin Franklin

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                #8
                Group buy on med kits?

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                  #9
                  I'm an EMT and I have a Paramedic Friend who is a Certified Paramedic Instructor. I'm sure we can get him to give a class for a reasonable fee.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MFStang View Post
                    I'm an EMT and I have a Paramedic Friend who is a Certified Paramedic Instructor. I'm sure we can get him to give a class for a reasonable fee.
                    I would love to recert for here in the USA

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by MFStang View Post
                      I'm an EMT and I have a Paramedic Friend who is a Certified Paramedic Instructor. I'm sure we can get him to give a class for a reasonable fee.
                      I would be in for this. I had my EMT and let it expire when I moved out of state (why I moved back.. I will never know...). Would be nice to at least get a class on this as a refresher.
                      Brandon

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                        #12
                        I've taken this class but with Will Willis, former USAF Para Rescue Man, AKA a PJ. It was invaluable. I think, but can't say for sure, that I'd know how to handle a GSW. MFStang, would you use a chest seal or just bandage to stop the bleeding? from the description I would assume (again, I have a very little bit a training but no experience) that you would use a chest seal because he's going to have a tension pneumothorax?

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                          #13
                          Does anyone have a good list of items for a med kit?
                          If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tonto View Post
                            Does anyone have a good list of items for a med kit?
                            Tourniquet, chest seal, gauze bandage, clotting/combat bandage, Ace bandage, trauma shears, eye cup, sharp knife.

                            That's pretty much what was int eh trauma kit they were selling at the class I mentioned. They also suggested a needle to release pressure for a tension pneumothorax, but I excluded it from my kit. I'm rarely if ever so far from help, that a professional won't be there soon enough to do that and I don't want to get sued because I jammed a needle into the wrong spot.
                            Last edited by Finicky Fat Guy; 06-24-2016, 01:35 PM.
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                              #15
                              If anyone has Roku there's a channel called "student of the gun" which often has a medical emergency preparedness videos.
                              I have a shit ton of trauma stuff at my home ..Israeli bandages quick clot all that stuff but I never bring it to the range... Maybe I should. I heard a ricochet whizzed passed my ear one time at Calverton Off a backdrop. Probably should've heeded that warning better

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