Is our long lost Austin back?

[Huntington Guy]

Well done Austin. Your team stood up to inspection and scrutiny, wish you would have stopped by LIGC to say hello when you got back in town.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/young-israel-of-woodmere-security-team-questioned-by-cops-1.11814496

[LazyLab]

Government won't monitor known mosques with ties to radicalism but they walk into synagogues and interrogate people. Hmmmm

[E]

So, licensed pistol permit holders are carrying out of class at synagogue for protection.

Someone there snitched and called county on the people there who were willing to protect them and their families - F them, hope they rot.

[Barnslayer]

I grew up about 5 blocks from that place (long before the neighborhood became orthodox). It's a very liberal area so no surprise about someone calling NCPD. Passive aggressive assholes. But if the SHTF at that place during a service, you can bet those same complainers would expect the permit holders to save their sorry butts.

[Gunwhore]

Government won't monitor known mosques with ties to radicalism but they walk into synagogues and interrogate people. Hmmmm

Exactly.

White? Pay taxes? Put the Bible down, we have some questions for you. Disgraceful.

[Huntington Guy]

Was going for the return of our fearless, mall ninja, grenade wearing, Kung fu fighting, automatic weapon slinging, Jewish sleep away camp counselor and security guru.
Must've been a different forum.

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I'm still mad about this - what people were allegedly doing isn't even illegal! Carrying out of class is not a crime.

As if the police have nothing better to do!

[ChiefSailer]

Can someone post the article. I don't subscribe to Newsday or have Optimum. Did the cops have a warrant?

[E]

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

So, licensed pistol permit holders are carrying out of class at synagogue for protection.

Someone there snitched and called county on the people there who were willing to protect them and their families - F them, hope they rot.

Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Not that I agree, but it seems pretty much done.

We have, The Kings Men, The Populace, and a certain segment of society that for whatever reason think they live above the laws.

Laws that pertain to parking, laws that pertain to business, laws that pertain to peddling on city streets in Brooklyn.

[brirodg]

This is a non-story. Nothing happened. Cops show up, question security team while outside the building, then they apologize and leave. But Newsday calls it a "raid" in the last paragraph.

Young Israel of Woodmere security team questioned by cops

Nassau County police descended on Long Island’s largest Orthodox Jewish synagogue Saturday and began questioning its security team just as services for Shabbat, the Jewish sabbath, were beginning for hundreds of congregants.

The seven-member police squad, led by the head of the county’s pistol license bureau, was not responding to a 911 call, but looking for alleged pistol permit violations among Young Israel of Woodmere’s armed security force, officials said

No violations were found.

Synagogue leaders and local elected officials expressed concern about the incident. They are working with police to ensure appropriate security measures are followed in the future at Young Israel, which has the largest Orthodox Jewish congregation in the nation, according to the Orthodox Union.

Synagogue officials, state Sen. Todd Kaminsky (D-Long Beach) and Hempstead Town Board members Bruce Blakeman and Anthony D’Esposito met Monday with Steven Skrynecki, the chief of department. Another meeting is scheduled for next Thursday.

“As a result of meetings with leadership of the congregation and with the Nassau County police department, it appears that a police department investigation was legitimate, but all agree that it was poorly executed, poorly timed and not well thought out,” Blakeman said Wednesday.

“We received assurances from the police department that it would not happen like that again. After the meeting there was an understanding that both sides had an interest in good relations,” Blakeman said.

Steven Zuller, chairman of the Young Israel board, said, “Working collaboratively with local law enforcement and our legislators, we appreciate their understanding and concern as this potentially relates to security for our congregation.”

He declined to disclose the size of the congregation, but said, “We definitely have a lot of security. Our membership’s security and well-being is one of the most important things. That’s top priority for anything we do.”

Synagogue President Yehuda Poupko said, “On the advice of our security consultants, we cannot comment about the situation, as it relates to security matters. However, we are working very closely with our elected officials and local law enforcement.”

According to police and synagogue officials, seven officers arrived at Young Israel as Shabbat services were beginning Saturday morning. The police officers did not enter the synagogue, but went to the doors and questioned its security team, upsetting some congregants.

Skrynecki said the police department “was investigating reports of possible pistol license violations. . . . At no time did our members enter the temple or intentionally disrupt services. While on the property, we did interview several security personnel outside the temple.”

He acknowledged the department “has been made aware of complaints by several congregants and we have met and are in discussion with temple officials at this time and are investigating these complaints.”

The chief said the complaints “are suggesting inappropriate timing and demeanor on the part of our officers.” He declined to give further details.

“It is an ongoing investigation,” Skrynecki said. “It’s important to us to work with the temple officials to maintain the good relationship that we have. It was never our intention to damage that relationship in any way.”

He declined to say who authorized the raid but added that police “investigate all complaints of potential pistol license violations and/or unauthorized or illegal possession of a weapon. Upon receiving information such as that, the department is duty bound to take prompt action to maintain public safety and safety within or around a private entity.”

[Pitbull428]

Nassau County police descended on Long Island’s largest Orthodox Jewish synagogue Saturday and began questioning its security team just as services for Shabbat, the Jewish sabbath, were beginning for hundreds of congregants.
The seven-member police squad, led by the head of the county’s pistol license bureau, was not responding to a 911 call, but looking for alleged pistol permit violations among Young Israel of Woodmere’s armed security force, officials said.

Synagogue leaders and local elected officials expressed concern about the incident. They are working with police to ensure appropriate security measures are followed in the future at Young Israel, which has the largest Orthodox Jewish congregation in the nation, according to the Orthodox Union.No violations were found.
Synagogue officials, state Sen. Todd Kaminsky (D-Long Beach) and Hempstead Town Board members Bruce Blakeman and Anthony D’Esposito met Monday with Steven Skrynecki, the chief of department. Another meeting is scheduled for next Thursday.
“As a result of meetings with leadership of the congregation and with the Nassau County police department, it appears that a police department investigation was legitimate, but all agree that it was poorly executed, poorly timed and not well thought out,” Blakeman said Wednesday.
“We received assurances from the police department that it would not happen like that again. After the meeting there was an understanding that both sides had an interest in good relations,” Blakeman said.
Steven Zuller, chairman of the Young Israel board, said, “Working collaboratively with local law enforcement and our legislators, we appreciate their understanding and concern as this potentially relates to security for our congregation.”
He declined to disclose the size of the congregation, but said, “We definitely have a lot of security. Our membership’s security and well-being is one of the most important things. That’s top priority for anything we do.”
Synagogue President Yehuda Poupko said, “On the advice of our security consultants, we cannot comment about the situation, as it relates to security matters. However, we are working very closely with our elected officials and local law enforcement.”
According to police and synagogue officials, seven officers arrived at Young Israel as Shabbat services were beginning Saturday morning. The police officers did not enter the synagogue, but went to the doors and questioned its security team, upsetting some congregants.
Skrynecki said the police department “was investigating reports of possible pistol license violations. . . . At no time did our members enter the temple or intentionally disrupt services. While on the property, we did interview several security personnel outside the temple.”

The chief said the complaints “are suggesting inappropriate timing and demeanor on the part of our officers.” He declined to give further details.He acknowledged the department “has been made aware of complaints by several congregants and we have met and are in discussion with temple officials at this time and are investigating these complaints.”
“It is an ongoing investigation,” Skrynecki said. “It’s important to us to work with the temple officials to maintain the good relationship that we have. It was never our intention to damage that relationship in any way.”
He declined to say who authorized the raid but added that police “investigate all complaints of potential pistol license violations and/or unauthorized or illegal possession of a weapon. Upon receiving information such as that, the department is duty bound to take prompt action to maintain public safety and safety within or around a private entity.”

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

Nassau County police descended on Long Island’s largest Orthodox Jewish synagogue Saturday and began questioning its security team just as services for Shabbat, the Jewish sabbath, were beginning for hundreds of congregants.
The seven-member police squad, led by the head of the county’s pistol license bureau, was not responding to a 911 call, but looking for alleged pistol permit violations among Young Israel of Woodmere’s armed security force, officials said.

Synagogue leaders and local elected officials expressed concern about the incident. They are working with police to ensure appropriate security measures are followed in the future at Young Israel, which has the largest Orthodox Jewish congregation in the nation, according to the Orthodox Union.No violations were found.
Synagogue officials, state Sen. Todd Kaminsky (D-Long Beach) and Hempstead Town Board members Bruce Blakeman and Anthony D’Esposito met Monday with Steven Skrynecki, the chief of department. Another meeting is scheduled for next Thursday.
“As a result of meetings with leadership of the congregation and with the Nassau County police department, it appears that a police department investigation was legitimate, but all agree that it was poorly executed, poorly timed and not well thought out,” Blakeman said Wednesday.
“We received assurances from the police department that it would not happen like that again. After the meeting there was an understanding that both sides had an interest in good relations,” Blakeman said.
Steven Zuller, chairman of the Young Israel board, said, “Working collaboratively with local law enforcement and our legislators, we appreciate their understanding and concern as this potentially relates to security for our congregation.”
He declined to disclose the size of the congregation, but said, “We definitely have a lot of security. Our membership’s security and well-being is one of the most important things. That’s top priority for anything we do.”
Synagogue President Yehuda Poupko said, “On the advice of our security consultants, we cannot comment about the situation, as it relates to security matters. However, we are working very closely with our elected officials and local law enforcement.”
According to police and synagogue officials, seven officers arrived at Young Israel as Shabbat services were beginning Saturday morning. The police officers did not enter the synagogue, but went to the doors and questioned its security team, upsetting some congregants.
Skrynecki said the police department “was investigating reports of possible pistol license violations. . . . At no time did our members enter the temple or intentionally disrupt services. While on the property, we did interview several security personnel outside the temple.”

The chief said the complaints “are suggesting inappropriate timing and demeanor on the part of our officers.” He declined to give further details.He acknowledged the department “has been made aware of complaints by several congregants and we have met and are in discussion with temple officials at this time and are investigating these complaints.”
“It is an ongoing investigation,” Skrynecki said. “It’s important to us to work with the temple officials to maintain the good relationship that we have. It was never our intention to damage that relationship in any way.”
He declined to say who authorized the raid but added that police “investigate all complaints of potential pistol license violations and/or unauthorized or illegal possession of a weapon. Upon receiving information such as that, the department is duty bound to take prompt action to maintain public safety and safety within or around a private entity.”

Yup. Pretty much the way things are dealt with in certain areas.

[E]

Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Not that I agree, but it seems pretty much done.

We have, The Kings Men, The Populace, and a certain segment of society that for whatever reason think they live above the laws.

Laws that pertain to parking, laws that pertain to business, laws that pertain to peddling on city streets in Brooklyn.

This has nothing to do with the Brooklyn licensing issue. None of these guys were involved - not even same licensing bureau.

It's not about what preferential treatment you may T think some groups get - rather it's another example of ridiculous 2A restrictions in this state.

I would be just as upset if this happened at a church, Buddhist or Sikh temple, etc. and hope for their sake that they are all doing the same.

[OH UNCLE PAUL]

This has nothing to do with the Brooklyn licensing issue. None of these guys were involved - not even same licensing bureau.

It's not about what preferential treatment you may T think some groups get - rather it's another example of ridiculous 2A restrictions in this state.

I would be just as upset if this happened at a church, Buddhist or Sikh temple, etc. and hope for their sake that they are all doing the same.

Sure it doesn't.

I'll be sure to look out for the security team at my church this Saturday evening. Not even going to be one police officer there for street crossing.

[E]

Sure it doesn't.

I'll be sure to look out for the security team at my church this Saturday evening. Not even going to be one police officer there for street crossing.

That was a fact not conjecture

You should establish security at your church. Private security is expensive and there is no reason why willing members shouldn't be able to offset the work.

Point blame wherever you want. Still doesn't change the fact that it wasn't illegal.