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    Why I won't buy a Mossberg

    Gun maker wants industry to give 'smart guns' a shot

    DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Jonathan Mossberg is among a small number of pioneers looking to build a safer gun. But unlike many others, he was in the gun business when he started down that path.

    His family is renowned for its premier line of shotguns treasured by law enforcement, hunters and the military. Mossberg already has spent more than a decade working to develop — and someday bring to the market — a firearm that the wrong person cannot fire. It is intended to work without fail in the hands of its owner in a life-or-death situation.

    "We're gun people, so we know when you pick up a gun you want to shoot it," Mossberg said. "You don't want to swipe your finger. You don't want to talk to it. In an emergency situation, you want to pick it up and use it."

    Mossberg's iGun Technology Corp., based in Daytona Beach, Florida, relies on a simple piece of jewelry — a ring — that "talks" to a circuit board imbedded in a firearm to let it know the user is authorized. The ring must be within centimeters of the gun for the gun to fire.

    The road to a safer gun has been long. Initial efforts encountered a public wary of the technology, but that has eased as iPhones, tablets and other smart devices have become common.

    Mossberg isn't the only one attempting to bring a bit of James Bond to firearms.

    Others are exploring biometrics, like an iPhone lock that opens with your fingerprint. Some rely on radio-frequency identification, or RFID, technology, proximity sensors similar to the system Mossberg's company uses. Some use watches to send a signal to the firearm.

    They've had varying degrees of success, but none has been broadly marketed so far.

    On Friday, Obama announced new steps to curb gun violence, including by identifying the requirements "smart guns" would have to meet for law enforcement agencies to buy and use them.

    "As long as we've got the technology to prevent a criminal from stealing and using your smartphone, then we should be able to prevent the wrong person from pulling a trigger on a gun," Obama said on Friday.

    The departments of Justice and Homeland Security said in a report Friday that they expect to complete the work of identifying the smart-gun requirements by October.

    "The technologies are a reality now," said Stephen Teret, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health who studies gun violence and gun policies. "There are obstacles still in getting those technologies into guns and getting guns into the civilian marketplace."

    Among them is cost. Modernizing gun manufacturing would mean higher prices for smart weapons.

    Then there's politics. The industry is concerned that success with the technology would encourage the government to mandate it.

    And the powerful gun lobby raises red flags about reliability. What happens if the firearm isn't syncing with the radio signal or the fingerprint isn't recognized? In a crisis, seconds are precious.

    "If you need it to protect yourself and it doesn't work, that's a bad outcome," said Larry Keane, senior vice president and general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which represents manufacturers. "Reliability is everything ... If your iPhone doesn't work, you're inconvenienced. You're not dead."

    Mossberg's interest in smart-gun technology stemmed from a rise in police being killed with their own service weapons in the 1990s. Law enforcement didn't embrace the idea, preferring to use holsters that made it more difficult for a suspect to disarm an officer.

    He switched gears and began developing a firearm for civilians, only to find resistance there, too. Many people in the focus groups he conducted around the country told him they wanted nothing to do with a gun that contained a circuit board.

    But as personalized technology won greater acceptance — and after mass shootings in Columbine, Colorado; Newtown, Connecticut, and other places seized public attention — opposition faded.

    Mossberg said the shotgun his company is developing has been tested more than 3,000 times with no failures. The next challenge: shrinking the circuit board so it fits into a handgun.

    iGun Technology Corp. has spent more than a decade working to develop a firearm that the wrong person cannot fire.
    If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

    "The ring must be within centimeters of the gun for the gun to fire."

    This has bad idea written all over it. What if you lose the ring? What if you're in a life threatening situation and the ring is rendered inoperable? Why do people have to be so stupid?

    The thing about technology is it fails. And I don't want to be left holding a gun shaped club when I need it the most.
    “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." - Benjamin Franklin


      The CZ shotguns are great, and the quality for the price is amazing. I got the now discontinued 612HCP, when I intended to buy a Mossberg. I really want a Benelli, but the ones I want are just too expensive. Anyway, I went to an LGS that I can't walk into without my credit card melting, like all of us, the typical excuse "just to get some ammo," but of course I know it is just my brain playing tricks on me. I asked to play with a Mossberg, with a few second choices in mind, when the money extractor suggested I check out the next new CZ. I love it, and would highly recommend their shotguns.
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        ok i dont wear my wedding ring because it gets in the way what the f*** are they thinking.
        stupid and very dangerous idea if you want it for protection
        let's make america great again


          So do you need two rings to practice transitions?


            So much fail here.

            So with this tech you can't shoot with your other hand and your partner can't use your gun if you're down

            Sounds like it's done before it starts. No thank you.


              I don't wear any rings, as for biometric scanners like my iPhone --- try using the fingerprint scanner to unlock it if your finger is wet, sweaty, or just plain dirty. KISS Simple works.


                I've always been more of an 870 guy myself ...


                  While I can't blame them for exploring new technologies that's a pretty tone deaf press release. Don't they remember what happened to Colt and Smith & Wesson?


                    this is a solution to a non existing problem , nothing more than a way to make owning a gun way too expensive for the common people .


                      50% of the time the blue tooth in my car fails to sync. No way I trust a remote devise to sync and permit function of my Firearm... And screw Mossberg for having an iGun Tech division..


                        I'm lucky if my laptop connects to wi-fi within a minute of booting. Somethings should just never be messed with,


                          Originally posted by MossbergMan View Post
                          50% of the time the blue tooth in my car fails to sync. No way I trust a remote devise to sync and permit function of my Firearm... And screw Mossberg for having an iGun Tech division..

                          Well my carguy friend in arms...............may I be the first to trade in your Fucking Yugo......................and get a nice car thats mostly made in America,with mostly American parts, and that is owned by Americans . Than you will enjoy Blue tooth that connects 75% of the time.