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    New York gun show homeless after push from anti-gun group

    Historic New York gun show homeless after push from anti-gun group


    Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords along with her astronaut husband, Mark Kelly, and New York Atty. Gen. Eric Schneiderman, made an appearance at the Saratoga Springs Arms Fair in 2013. Now it is going away. (Photo: AP)

    The Saratoga Springs Arms Fair, which has put on over a 100 shows in the past three decades, is looking for a new venue after the City Center refused to book new shows.

    Saratogians for Gun Safety has long made the Arms Fair, a semi-annual gun show now in its 33rd year, their nemesis. In 2013, U.S. Rep. Gabby Giffords, along with New York Attorney Gen. Eric Schneiderman, visited the show and held it an example of compliance with the state’s new SAFE Act gun laws.

    Now, the Arms Fair is being told that there are no dates available for the show to book in 2017 or 2018.

    “We are booked there for August 20 to 21, and that’s the final booking date there that I’ve got,” show organizer David Petrnois told WAMC radio.

    “You can run an antique show, or if you can run a healthcare event, or if you can run any other things there that people are making at, why can’t I make money at my legitimate gun show that the Attorney General of New York State says is the safest place to buy a gun?” said Petronis.

    While City Center and Saratoga County officials aren’t commenting, Downtown Business Association President Tim Holmes told the Saratogian that his group of some 230 local business owners said there has been no push by area merchants to see the Arms Show leave.

    “Any time the City Center is full and active it supports downtown merchants,” said Holmes.

    As for the gun control advocates, they are upping their campaign to ask gun shows at City Center be banned outright, arguing it encourages the transport and carrying of firearms through Saratoga’s downtown area, drains public safety resources due to police security for the event and “sends the wrong message about our community when the city profits from the sale of guns, especially during a time when tax payers are assuming the additional burden of paying for security in our schools and public institutions.”

    This is not the first time that protests from small gun control organizations led to publicly backed fair and community venues suddenly severing ties with long-running gun shows.

    In Tennessee, the Metro Nashville Fair Board has been locked in a very public argument over refusal to rent space to Bill Goodman’s Gun and Knife Show, which has been a regular visitor to the fairgrounds since the 1970s, that has led to legal challenges. Metro’s relationship with Goodman began to sour after the Safe Tennessee Project complained of material including items with Confederate flags being sold at the event while simultaneously attempting to link guns in the possession of felons to the shows held at the Fairgrounds.

    For the Saratoga Springs Arms Fair, Petrnois contends the show will go on regardless of City Center’s seemingly inability to accommodate them, and is actively searching for other outlets.
    Pat ------> NRA Lifetime Endowment Member #FAAFO

    #2
    What bullshit.

    So next it will be ban all gun stores.... Which will just make criminals out of people who would properly buy a firearm from a store as they go to, I dunno, pick any high school in a shitty area, to buy one instead.

    I truly hate this @&$#%^ liberal &[email protected]/*#% state.
    NRA Lifetime Member / NRA RSO & Certified Basic Pistol Instructor
    NYSRPA Member / Freeport R&R Member

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      #3
      I guess schneiderman has a pl because well he is in the not free America state of NY and is handling a pistol, track the $$ who is kicking it to the convention center for turning away the rental maybe a disliked billionare

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        #4
        How is this possible ? When if I would have to make a cake for a gay couple shouldn't the same rules apply ?
        https://youtu.be/mLKSqMWS600

        #FallenAngeltechnology

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          #5
          Freaking ridiculous,
          That whole area is struggling financially as it is, and a small group of ignorant assholes just cost many of the local merchants there thousands in lost revenue? Not just those associated with the show, but also the area merchants who sell food, gas, lodging, etc...
          Hope they find another venture close by and convey to those Saratogians for Gun Safety idiots to go screw themselves.
          Artist formerly known as TERRY P

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            #6
            Is Kelly licensed in NY? He and his wife are both shooters and he carries in AZ. Then the hypocritical POS runs around the US demanding more restrictive gun laws and elimination of civilian CCW.
            Eff em both, and how does AG Schneiderman allow "exceptions" for violating NYS law for politicians and celebrities but jams up John Q Public? Another hypocrite.

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              #7
              Imagine trying to ban an art fair that hosted art consisting of The Virgin Mary with elephant shit on it or a Crucifix submerged in urine ...

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                #8
                Originally posted by T.J. View Post
                Freaking ridiculous,
                That whole area is struggling financially as it is, and a small group of ignorant assholes just cost many of the local merchants there thousands in lost revenue? Not just those associated with the show, but also the area merchants who sell food, gas, lodging, etc...
                Hope they find another venture close by and convey to those Saratogians for Gun Safety idiots to go screw themselves.
                I hope they find that other venture JUST ACROSS STATE LINES.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Huntington Guy View Post
                  Is Kelly licensed in NY? He and his wife are both shooters and he carries in AZ. Then the hypocritical POS runs around the US demanding more restrictive gun laws and elimination of civilian CCW.
                  Eff em both, and how does AG Schneiderman allow "exceptions" for violating NYS law for politicians and celebrities but jams up John Q Public? Another hypocrite.
                  this is so true and since they do not have ny state licenses and the picture proves he is handling a hand gun , arrest him and throw him in jail

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                    #10
                    Has the Arms Fair host in Saratoga been a privately owned site or government facility like a municipal convention center? If its private, the owner can do what he wants, but the government can't discriminate against gun owners/sellers in accommodating a show.
                    Ballistic: "Grif... You are my legal eagle spirit animal...."

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Grifhunter View Post
                      Has the Arms Fair host in Saratoga been a privately owned site or government facility like a municipal convention center? If its private, the owner can do what he wants, but the government can't discriminate against gun owners/sellers in accommodating a show.
                      They are a City Authority.

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                        #12
                        Should've hired a little Asian twink to follow her around in short shorts and throw firecrackers in the air like the drug deal scene in Boogie Nights.

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