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    Exploded 10mm Nighthawk 1911

    Exploded 10mm Nighthawk 1911

    My friend Greg sent this to me. His friend had a Nighthawk 1911 chambered in 10mm. He said it was the most accurate handgun he has ever shot. Until it exploded.



    From what my friend Greg was told, his friend was using off the shelf Armscor 10mm ammo.

    1911s don’t explode as easily as polymer framed pistols. However this one was spectacular.



    If you look at the picture at the top, you can see the chamber is split. I am not sure how that caused the slide to split down the middle, top and bottom. Then look at the damage to the dust cover of the frame.

    When I saw these pictures the first thought in my mind was “Is the shooter ok?”. Greg assuaged my concerns and told me his friend received no harm from this accident. I think that is something remarkable about this Nighthawk 1911. It received this much damage from the 10mm round but the shooter was ok. Not sure if it was luck or due to the high quality that Nighthawk is known for. Unfortunately the shooter was unable to find any remnants of the round that detonated.

    Nighthawk has never seen anything like this before and are building the owner a new gun as I post this.



    Exploded 10mm Nighthawk 1911 -
    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/05/26/exploded-10mm-nighthawk-1911/
    My friend Greg sent this to me. His friend had a Nighthawk 1911 chambered in 10mm. He said it was the most accurate handgun he has ever shot. Until it exploded. From what my friend Greg was told, his friend was using off the shelf Armscor 10mm ammo. 1911s don’t explode as easily as polymer … Read More …

    Pat ------> NRA Lifetime Endowment Member #FAAFO
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    #2
    Interesting.... It appears the barrel didn't blow up??? I'm puzzled on how the front end splits without the barrel having blown up near the muzzle.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Parashooter View Post
      Interesting.... It appears the barrel didn't blow up??? I'm puzzled on how the front end splits without the barrel having blown up near the muzzle.
      Out of battery is the only thing I can think of.
      Ben

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        Nighthawk Custom • 6 hours ago
        Based on what the customer had told us last night we agreed to replace the pistol at no charge. The pistol was given to him by his wife for his birthday, he loved the pistol and told us it was the most accurate pistol he had. Mark Stone, owner of Nighthawk, questioned him about the possibly of a squib load or an over charge and he told us to his knowledge everything was normal. We believe based on his knowledge he told us the truth. Mark told him that we could not explain what happened based on his answer. We would not disassemble his pistol, we would use it for a display piece.

        This morning pictures and blog content started appearing online and at that point we decided to investigate further due to the photos on the blog showing pictures of the pistol in a different condition than we received. Our customer did not put these pictures online. The pistol that we received had been pried and beat open. The owner of the pistol said a gunsmith had done so to remove the spent case. We did not receive the spent case when the pistol was returned.

        When we broke the pistol down and examined the barrel, we saw clear evidence that a squib load caused the damage. We have taken numerous photos to document these findings.

        Last night we wanted to give the customer a response as soon as possible. Mark agreed at that time to replace his pistol free of charge and we will stand by our word, but we wanted to present these facts.

        Here are the pictures.
        Last edited by Pitbull428; 05-26-2016, 11:45 PM.
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          #5
          The other side of the coin I see...
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            #6
            lucky owner, what off the shelf ammo was it

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              gripper 2.0 commented
              05-27-2016, 05:14 AM
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              never mind just scrolled back to the top, shouldnt post until I drink enough coffee
            #7
            Looks interesting. wonder if nighthawk will be contacting the owner for that piece of brass

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              #8
              I agree it looks like a classic squib load issue. Armscor ammo is kind of sketchy sometime, I have only used it an Uzi for that reason.
              Know your rights/Refuse peacefully to consent to a search /Ask if you are free to go or are being detained/Even if you are not doing anything wrong the 4th Amendment protects you against unreasonable searches/Never say anything to law enforcement even if you think it will help you/If questioned you should clearly and unequivocally request that you would like to have an attorney present and defer any questions until then/Never go to prison because you are afraid to go to jail.

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                #9
                nice of them to replace it when it was not there fault.
                let's make america great again
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                  #10
                  Originally posted by Havfun View Post
                  nice of them to replace it when it was not there fault.
                  How do you know that? Seems there may have been a manufacturing defect in the barrel, if not the slide. The owner claims OTS factory ammo.

                  I once read an article about how Ruger tested one of their new autos. They plugged the barrel and fired a +P load. The extractor and case head were blown out the ejector port but everything else stayed intact. They replaced the extractor and the barrel with a normal one and the pistol functioned fine.

                  Give a man fire, and he stays warm for one night. Set a man on fire, and he stays warm for the rest of his life.
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                    #11
                    Originally posted by BLAMMO!! View Post

                    How do you know that? Seems there may have been a manufacturing defect in the barrel, if not the slide. The owner claims OTS factory ammo.

                    I once read an article about how Ruger tested one of their new autos. They plugged the barrel and fired a +P load. The extractor and case head were blown out the ejector port but everything else stayed intact. They replaced the extractor and the barrel with a normal one and the pistol functioned fine.
                    unless there lying


                    This morning pictures and blog content started appearing online and at that point we decided to investigate further due to the photos on the blog showing pictures of the pistol in a different condition than we received. Our customer did not put these pictures online. The pistol that we received had been pried and beat open. The owner of the pistol said a gunsmith had done so to remove the spent case. We did not receive the spent case when the pistol was returned.

                    When we broke the pistol down and examined the barrel, we saw clear evidence that a squib load caused the damage. We have taken numerous photos to document these findings.

                    Last night we wanted to give the customer a response as soon as possible. Mark agreed at that time to replace his pistol free of charge and we will stand by our word, but we wanted to present these facts.
                    let's make america great again

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                      #12
                      Originally posted by BLAMMO!! View Post

                      How do you know that? Seems there may have been a manufacturing defect in the barrel, if not the slide. The owner claims OTS factory ammo.

                      I once read an article about how Ruger tested one of their new autos. They plugged the barrel and fired a +P load. The extractor and case head were blown out the ejector port but everything else stayed intact. They replaced the extractor and the barrel with a normal one and the pistol functioned fine.
                      You can tell when a barrel has been beaten by a squib load being followed by a good load.... The barrel bursts just behind the squibbed bullet. sometimes luck lets the second bullet push the first one out, but it leaves a 'ring' (a bulge) in the barrel... someitmes you get real lucky - I've seen a barrel that had 7 rings - before it blew up.

                      I didn't see that split in the barrel in the original pics... wow.

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                        #13
                        Looks like a squib to me. Weird he didn't keep the spent casing or anything (the box with lot number???). May have been a hand load....guess we'll never know.

                        Very very nice of them to replace the pistol even though it wasn't their fault.
                        Last edited by sheeple; 05-27-2016, 11:05 AM.
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                          #14
                          handload is my guess.
                          let's make america great again
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                            #15
                            He likely didn't send the case because it didn't match the ammo he reported having the issue with. Hand load gone wrong is my guess.
                            Last edited by SlowTime; 05-28-2016, 05:53 AM. Reason: to fix the what the spell check fucked up
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