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    Guns & Coffee

    The happy ending version.

    Man facing charges after punching Starbucks employee in attack thwarted by licensed gun owner, authorities say

    By Bradford Betz |
    Benjamin Scott Overall was shot after "aggressively" approaching a Starbucks patron, according to criminal charges. (Salt Lake County Jail)

    A concealed carrier in a Utah Starbucks fired one shot into the chest of a man last week who polices said had just assaulted a barista, Salt Lake City’s Fox 13 reported.

    The carrier was in his late 60s, police said. His identity was not released.

    “He witnessed the assault against the clerk,” UPD Detective Ken Hansen said. “And his response, because apparently after the assault the guy came after him, and so he shot the man in the chest.”

    The suspect, identified as Benjamin Scott Overall, 37, set off a panic alarm around 6 a.m. Oct. 4 inside a 7-Eleven store in Millcreek, a suburb of Salt Lake City, KJZZ-TV reported. A responding officer approached Overall, who then allegedly fled to a nearby Starbucks.

    Overall then allegedly attacked a female employee, the Salt Lake City Tribune reported. A police "probable cause" statement said he punched her, hit her in the head with a metal basket, and kicked her.

    “She couldn’t get away from him, and he continued to strike her on her head, face, neck and shoulders,” criminal charges stated.

    The employee, Shelby Hamilton, 24, said she thought Overall was going to kill her.

    “He just came in the door and … hit me in the back of the head from behind,” Hamilton told the Deseret News. “I was the first one he saw.”

    Overall then “aggressively approached” a customer who happened to have a concealed weapons permit, according to the criminal charges. The customer shot Overall in the chest before he could attack, police said.

    A restaurant employee who works next door to the Starbucks said the area has a problem with transients.

    “I give kudos to the guy who shot the man in the chest,” the employee told KUTV.

    Police interviewed the permit holder after the shooting. They said he was cooperative. Hansen doesn’t know if he will face charges but said it is likely the shooting will be interpreted as self-defense.

    Hamilton said the permit holder is a regular customer.

    “I never would have expected that from him,” Hamilton said. “He just seemed like a very meek guy. So I was surprised, but also very grateful. I was very grateful that he was there. And I was glad it was somebody we see regularly so that hopefully, in the future, I can thank him.”

    Overall was charged Tuesday with aggravated assault and criminal trespass, according to court records. He remained hospitalized through Wednesday, recovering from his gunshot wounds, KSL-TV reported.

    A police affidavit cited by KSL indicated that Overall attempted to go into a hotel room that was not his earlier this year. He was convicted of intoxication in Salt Lake Justice Court in May, according to court records.
    Last edited by imrich; 10-11-2018, 08:22 AM.

    #2
    I thought Starbucks banned guns in its stores?

    ETA. My bad. They request that no firearms be brought into their stores.

    https://news.starbucks.com/views/ope...er-from-Howard
    Last edited by ChiefSailer; 10-11-2018, 08:32 AM.
    Just Another Reason For Me To Retire in Tennessee.

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      #3
      Originally posted by ChiefSailer View Post
      I thought Starbucks banned guns in its stores?
      I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they should rethink their policy now or at least their staff should get their heads out of their collective asses and realize that a good guy/gal with a gun is an equalizer! Doubt they will see that at......doubt they'll see anything through their blue and pink hair and their face that they turned into a pin cushion.

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        #4
        I don’t know if they ever took an official stand on the issue and instead just issued a wishy washy statement that they respect the local laws, which is good for CCW. I travel for work occasionally and I’ve never seen a sign in any Starbucks saying no guns allowed.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Diesel1 View Post

          I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they should rethink their policy now or at least their staff should get their heads out of their collective asses and realize that a good guy/gal with a gun is an equalizer! Doubt they will see that at......doubt they'll see anything through their blue and pink hair and their face that they turned into a pin cushion.
          Agreed
          https://news.starbucks.com/views/ope...er-from-Howard
          Just Another Reason For Me To Retire in Tennessee.

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            #6
            Originally posted by ChiefSailer View Post
            I have such a simple response.

            SUCK MY D#$%

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              #7
              Originally posted by Diesel1 View Post

              I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they should rethink their policy now or at least their staff should get their heads out of their collective asses and realize that a good guy/gal with a gun is an equalizer! Doubt they will see that at......doubt they'll see anything through their blue and pink hair and their face that they turned into a pin cushion.
              So I was thinking the same thing and I’m at the Starbucks in my town all the time and I’ve become friendly with the people working there. Your typical 20 somethings, who on the surface appear to be liberal, anti gun democrats. A few of them expressed interest in firearms, so I volunteered to take them to the range and experience it for themselves. Told them I’d supply the ammo and rifle, it’d be safe, it’s a lot of fun and I’d show them how to safely and correctly do it. So keep an open mind, you never know.

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                #8
                What caliper handgun did he use?
                Was it a Grande or a Venti ?
                Tag line thanks to @Synner

                He’s like a walking “Tickle Me Angry” doll.

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                  #9
                  Starbucks, making billions of dollars selling coffee that tastes like dirt.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by spider View Post
                    Starbucks, making billions of dollars selling coffee that tastes like dirt.
                    Your other option is DD which sells you a dirty water as coffee or the place in Garden City which serves Greek donkey piss- hot or iced.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by spider View Post
                      Starbucks, making billions of dollars selling coffee that tastes like dirt.
                      It seems you didn’t grow up in a house with a short fat Italian grandmother from Brooklyn. That ‘dirt’ is 20oz. of hot, strong, black bitter heaven in a cup.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ChiefSailer View Post
                        I thought Starbucks banned guns in its stores?

                        ETA. My bad. They request that no firearms be brought into their stores.

                        https://news.starbucks.com/views/ope...er-from-Howard
                        Good thing this guy ignored that BS.
                        “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." - Benjamin Franklin

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                          #13
                          Mr. Shultz, I respectfully decline your request in favor of my constitutional rights and I, your employees and your customers are better of for it. Mr. Shultz, in this, you are an idiot.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by imrich View Post

                            It seems you didn’t grow up in a house with a short fat Italian grandmother from Brooklyn. That ‘dirt’ is 20oz. of hot, strong, black bitter heaven in a cup.
                            Please don't compare what's made in this


                            With the crap they serve in Starbucks. I've heard from a local coffee roaster, that Starbucks uses inferior beans which means they have to roast them longer to get flavor out. That's the biggest reason for the burnt taste.

                            IMHO - the fact that people don't realize that SB can open stores with blocks of each other and both stores be successful means they charge way too much for coffee is beyond me.

                            If you enjoy it, enjoy it......but don't insult short fat Italian grandma's by comparing the coffee from made in the above above with Starbucks....most of them would probably hit you with a wooden spoon if they heard that.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Russian View Post

                              Your other option is DD which sells you a dirty water as coffee or the place in Garden City which serves Greek donkey piss- hot or iced.
                              Option #B: www.blondiesbakeshop.com

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