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    Center of face not center of mass

    From Gabe Suarez

    http://blog.suarezinternational.com/...r-of-mass.html



    Look at the image above. See the hard plates worn by the terrorist Johnson in Dallas? If you shoot that with a handgun or rifle, it will have no effect whatsoever.

    Its is 2016 and with new developments and observations of the SOP of our enemies the terrorists, new paradigms must be established, and new skills to meet the new requirements must be developed and practiced. I don't want to hear from guys who are still thinking it is 1985 and want to play the odds against the broken bottle armed punk in the alley with their J-Frame and five shots. Times have changed and our methods must adapt or be crushed by the wheels of history.

    The New Paradigm

    Today we must assume any adversary is wearing body armor...and in some cases a bomb vest. We all recall James Holmes, the movie-theater shooter in Aurora, Colorado. He wore, according to sources, “a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest, ballistic leggings, a throat protector, and a groin protector.” And we get vague reports from LE about the San Bernardino Terrorists wearing armor. And we know that Mateen, the Orlando Jihadist, attempted to buy armor that would defeat rifle fire. The fortunately astute and profiling salesman refused to sell it to him. And of course, we know that Micah Johnson, the Dallas Terrorist was wearing a full set of rifle plates.

    We also know form studying the events of the past two years both at home and overseas in developed nations, that the use of bomb vests has increased. In an FBI study on Active Shooter events (up to 2012) showed that in 5% of events, the terrorists brought crude bomb vests. And I will bet most of you have already forgotten Joel Henry Hinrichs III. Hinrichs was the first guy to my knowledge to have attempted a suicide bombing in the USA post 9/11. On October 1, 2005, after having been refused entry to a football game at Oklahoma State University, Hinrichs detonated three pounds of TATP he was carrying on his body. As the Syrian refugee invasion continues into the west, it is unavoidable that the combat knowledge possessed by the many jihadists among them will spread and the quality and stability of these improvised explosives will become more common.


    So today, we see the hapless Turkish police officer running in terror at the realization the man he just brought down with a body shot is still alive and about to set off an explosive device. We see the race terrorist Johnson, wearing a full set of plates that even a rifle could not have defeated. And we know the prevalence of technology means that armor is not only prolific and accessible, but so is the widely published information on building a bomb vest. We also know that just as a body shot to a set of SAPI plates will be a waste of effort, a shot from a handgun to a poorly designed bomb vest will set it off with alacrity.

    Response to the New Paradigm

    All my pistol practice is to the face/neck area. I target the area we will henceforth call "Center Of Face" or COF for short. I no longer worry about center of mass chest shots unless they are true, completely unexpected, reactive shooting events filled with extreme surprise and close range emergency movement. And even then...my objective is to achieve a face shot as soon as possible. If there is even a tenth of a degree of preparation or proactive process, its a face/neck shot immediately.

    The argument for has been established above, but there are still many in the training field that resist my line of thinking, just as they did when I taught the first Terrorist/Active Shooter Interdiction Class back in 2005. Now they are all emulating that class...and soon their position on head shots as I describe will change as well. Just watch.

    Their reasons for clinging to the center of mass include but are not limited to the following:

    1). It is too difficult for Sally Soccer-mom and Retired Robert to pull this off. Well, yes it may be. As I said in a previous, now viral article, we live in a time of war. Adaptions must be made.

    The terrorist will not take it easy nor spare Robert or Sally, or those who are like them. At the end of the day, people will either be up to the task, or they will not. If they are not, they won't survive the day. Harsh perhaps but that is reality.

    Better to tell a student the truth, and give them the opportunity to increase their skills than to mislead them about the minimum being sufficient.

    Is it difficult to do what we are suggesting? I don't think so. Lets look at the target to the left. I am drawing a target box around the face and upper neck, and as wide as the outer corners of the eyes.

    From sternal notch to browline is about 8" vertically, and across the width of the face is about 4" horizontally.

    To illustrate this, take a standard 8.5x11 sheet of paper and fold it in half. That is about the size of your target from the front, side and back. So its not as difficult a target as the throwbacks would have you think.

    Moreover, the idea that the shot to head will only work if you hit a small credit card sized "cranio-ocular cavity" is false. Again, look at the target on the left.

    The throat area has many structures which are easily injured. The jugular veins as well as the easily reached spine and their destruction would insure a "stop". If I take a baseball bat and smash a terrorist in the face with it, I don't have to hit a credit card to get the desired effect.

    And lets also get away from the slow deliberate single surgical brain shot for this application. Certainly, if you have the time for that do so, but if you do not, send the same burst you would normally have fired at the chest area into the face area. Once you let go of the notion that these shots must be fired at different speeds, you will realize the damage that you can do. The mind set has to change and get away from the idea of "scoring a target". Its not about the target, or the score...it is about the killing.

    A handful of bullets will do much better.

    2). Along the complaints of difficulty for the under-achiever class is the incessant and apparently ingrained fear of legal repercussions for going to the head in the first place, and the legality of errant rounds missing and hitting someone/something else.

    Going to the head as a primary target and a preferred target can easily be justified by simply reading this article, and perhaps looking at the daily news. It is not 1985 any more kids and the mind set of those days must change. I know those that profit from the ingrained fear of the legal system will never agree, but few of them have ever actually shot anyone so theirs is more a theoretical position than a real one. Pre-selecting the COF is not only justified, but in the world of body armor, IEDs, ISIS and urban terror, it is the only wise choice.

    Read - The New Threat Paradigm

    Read - The Terrorist VS The Criminal

    And on the fear of missing (and thus not shooting) here is an interesting fact. Police Officers hit their targets roughly 34 percent of the time. That means that they miss 66% of the time. Yet we don't hear of nuns and orphans dropping like flies from errant police gunfire do we? Why not? Because another truth of combat is that where ever the bullets are flying, there will always be more air than meat. But even if that were not the case, is it wise and prudent to refrain from shooting out of fear? I submit that such a mind set will indirectly cause your death or the death of others.

    What would have happened if Jeanne Assam had not shot Matthew James Murray? Or if Donald J. Moore had not shot the man who entered the AT&T store in New York Mills, New York carrying a .357 magnum revolver in his hand and a list of employees he planned to kill in his pocket. Or if Jonathan Baer had not engaged Hjelmeland. Or if the good guys that find themselves at ground zero every time do not engage out of an unreasonable fear of being unable to meet an unreasonable expectation? Then they die and everyone they could have saved also dies. And in the case of the Bataclan Theater Terrorism, dying by the gunfire of the terrorists would be a merciful thing.

    Holding on to old tactics and training methods from a long ago peacetime is foolish. We live in a time of war.

    #2
    I thought this was thread was about giraffes
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      #3
      My wife was pretty darn good with head shots her first time pistol shooting!

      That said, I still tell her to aim for center of mass, but it is her call based on the circumstance.
      I am not armed out of fear of who's in front of me.
      I am armed out of love of those behind me.

      Anyone who says money doesn't matter to them is either a FOOL or a LIAR or BOTH!

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        #4
        Disagree on center of face. Aim for the eyes/OMC every shot.
        Know your rights/Refuse peacefully to consent to a search /Ask if you are free to go or are being detained/Even if you are not doing anything wrong the 4th Amendment protects you against unreasonable searches/Never say anything to law enforcement even if you think it will help you/If questioned you should clearly and unequivocally request that you would like to have an attorney present and defer any questions until then/Never go to prison because you are afraid to go to jail.

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          #5
          I'm less likely to make precise shots:

          in the dark, at 3am, just being woke up.
          having my business stormed with armed men as I'm helping a customer
          eating dinner with the family as someone is kicking down my door

          et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

          Adrenal dump and the chaotic environment is going to be a sensory overload for most people to be calm enough to focus on the front sight to put one or a few to the dome. Again, add in movement, fear, confusion, dynamic speed of how the situation changes in mere seconds is something a lot of people disregard in their training.

          My first 2 shots are going to be chest box. My next shots will be dependent on a variety of situations I'll never be able to train for.

          So I've trained:

          Standard response - 2 chest box

          High response - 2 chest box, 2 head

          Low response - 2 chest box, 2 pelvis

          Timed, in the dark, one handed, slow, fast... what do you do when you run out of ammo and the perp is nose to nose with you and you don't have a chance to reload?... Have you addressed that in your training?

          You're out in public and shooting starts... you're with your family... what do you do?communication, prior planning as a family unit, how to shield a loved one and shoot, cover/concealment, cover fire, emergency tourniquet. And that's assuming you're not the one who was shot first during the gunman's initial rage.

          Admittedly, my focus has been competition most of the past few years. But I've also have some funds set aside for a few 8 hour defensive courses for 2017 to reinforce the 4 other 8 hour training courses I took in 2013-2015.

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            #6
            Originally posted by mossy930spx View Post
            what do you do when you run out of ammo and the perp is nose to nose with you and you don't have a chance to reload?... Have you addressed that in your training?
            Martial arts.

            I am not armed out of fear of who's in front of me.
            I am armed out of love of those behind me.

            Anyone who says money doesn't matter to them is either a FOOL or a LIAR or BOTH!

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              #7
              Originally posted by LiDad View Post

              Martial arts.
              Everything I just discussed is martial arts. Every combative tactics used is martial.

              your training should also include scenario based training.

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                #8
                Originally posted by mossy930spx View Post

                Everything I just discussed is martial arts. Every combative tactics used is martial.

                your training should also include scenario based training.
                You know what I mean.
                I am not armed out of fear of who's in front of me.
                I am armed out of love of those behind me.

                Anyone who says money doesn't matter to them is either a FOOL or a LIAR or BOTH!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by LiDad View Post

                  You know what I mean.
                  I've been involved in full contact fighting systems since 1997.

                  Got involved in some Richard dimitri based training on a few occasions. Shit changes when you add dialog, multiple opponents, weapons in a dynamic way.

                  So, no, I don't think you understand where I'm coming from. Yet.

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                    #10
                    I do get what he's saying but...
                    People who train often, on the range with NO stress, have a hard time hitting a stationary 4" x 5 1/2" box fast, even from 5 yds - but this guy says that's what everybody should do. If you can't, you should train more. But, what's his advice for the 99.9% of the people who have lives, and families and jobs and can only get to the range when they can? Should they still aim for the head?

                    We know that in gunfights there is an extremely low percentage of 'center mass' hits. The vast majority of (street encounter) shots are misses*. The next highest percentage is extremity hits (arms and legs). Lesser, torso hits. But his guy wants head shots, the smallest part of the stop/kill zone, of a usually moving target under stress.....I say, "Wishful Thinking".

                    *higher percentage for home shootings
                    Last edited by Dan 0351; 07-21-2016, 11:20 PM.
                    “The Wise are silent, the Foolish speak, and children are thus led astray.”
                    Algernon Blackwood

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                      #11
                      To this day I still wonder how in the world I missed a few of the deer while hunting with my Mossberg 500. Since I had probably two seconds to sight, aim and fire, it was probably 'buck fever.' I would think, since I have fortunately not had to shoot anyone (yet), that the same psychological response is likely even if I am pissed off that someone broke into my house and is either directly or indirectly threatening mine and ours. That said, I never shoot at those man-size bad guy targets at Mitchell, etc, but rather at targets on 8 1/2 by 11 sheets of paper from 9 or 10 yards. Missing an 8 o 9 ring at that distance convinces me that a head shot will not be easy but is do-able. My thinking is aim small, miss small.

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