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    Question about speeding tickets

    Hey folks,

    I got my lifetime abstract back from NYS DMV and I have three speed convictions listed (from 2010,1999,1998) on it. Do I list them under the "Have you ever been arrested, summoned, charged, indicted, or received an appearance ticket anywhere for any offense other than parking violations" section?

    Thanks in advance!

    #2
    Yes.
    Steve

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      #3
      Yes and slow down. That's too many.
      Know your rights/Refuse peacefully to consent to a search /Ask if you are free to go or are being detained/Even if you are not doing anything wrong the 4th Amendment protects you against unreasonable searches/Never say anything to law enforcement even if you think it will help you/If questioned you should clearly and unequivocally request that you would like to have an attorney present and defer any questions until then/Never go to prison because you are afraid to go to jail.

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        #4
        Yes. And it will come up. Answer truthfully.

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          #5
          3 speeding tickets in 12 years? That's really not a crazy amount. The fact you even need to justify why you got them is ludicrous.
          “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." - Benjamin Franklin

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            #6
            I never got a speeding ticket until....

            i submitted my app, went for the interview and then 2 weeks later, got my first speeder. I was like "are you kidding me??".

            got pleaded down to some bs no point infraction but cost $400.

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              #7
              Thanks, I enter them in that section. Hopefully that doesn't DQ me.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chiburger View Post
                Thanks, I enter them in that section. Hopefully that doesn't DQ me.
                You'll be fine, include everything and be truthful. Antique traffic offenses should not even be a question but you have to play the game.
                The app is your opportunity to be honest, they will know or find out anything in your background. Honesty is the way to go.
                Good luck

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                  #9
                  Best to fess up. The all have S.C.M.O.D.S.
                  Exercise the Bill of Rights. It's good for your Constitution.

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                    #10
                    I just got off the phone with the NCPD pistol section. I had the exact same question as you because my wife got a speeding ticket in 2000. Here's what she told me. You only need the statements for moving violations in the past five years per question 6 on page 2 of the application. She said that the bottom section on the first page is really for arrests, summons, appearance tickets and things of that nature. If I had gotten a license suspended, I'd probably note that there, but the impression I got was that plain vanilla moving violations were not to be listed there. She told me that the lifetime driving record would show the old moving violations so you are disclosing them there.

                    When I submitted my application, I checked "no" in that box but I had two moving violations in the past five years that I wrote a statement for and that was before the requirement for the lifetime driving record.

                    For my wife's application, I'm going to check No and asterisk it with a note to see the lifetime driving record.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by HyFiveGuns View Post
                      I just got off the phone with the NCPD pistol section. I had the exact same question as you because my wife got a speeding ticket in 2000. Here's what she told me. You only need the statements for moving violations in the past five years per question 6 on page 2 of the application. She said that the bottom section on the first page is really for arrests, summons, appearance tickets and things of that nature. If I had gotten a license suspended, I'd probably note that there, but the impression I got was that plain vanilla moving violations were not to be listed there. She told me that the lifetime driving record would show the old moving violations so you are disclosing them there.

                      When I submitted my application, I checked "no" in that box but I had two moving violations in the past five years that I wrote a statement for and that was before the requirement for the lifetime driving record.

                      For my wife's application, I'm going to check No and asterisk it with a note to see the lifetime driving record.
                      I wonder how many spouses and children of the people who work in PLB have moving violations? Hmmm......
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by HyFiveGuns View Post
                        I just got off the phone with the NCPD pistol section. I had the exact same question as you because my wife got a speeding ticket in 2000. Here's what she told me. You only need the statements for moving violations in the past five years per question 6 on page 2 of the application. She said that the bottom section on the first page is really for arrests, summons, appearance tickets and things of that nature. If I had gotten a license suspended, I'd probably note that there, but the impression I got was that plain vanilla moving violations were not to be listed there. She told me that the lifetime driving record would show the old moving violations so you are disclosing them there.

                        When I submitted my application, I checked "no" in that box but I had two moving violations in the past five years that I wrote a statement for and that was before the requirement for the lifetime driving record.

                        For my wife's application, I'm going to check No and asterisk it with a note to see the lifetime driving record.



                        How did this work out? I have the same situation and wondering if i need to check that box for speeding / traffic tickets?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Heartlessmcfly View Post
                          I never got a speeding ticket until....

                          i submitted my app, went for the interview and then 2 weeks later, got my first speeder. I was like "are you kidding me??".

                          got pleaded down to some bs no point infraction but cost $400.
                          Did they take pity on you when they learned of your infatuation with Ms. Pelosi?
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                            #14
                            Is the lifetime abstract federal? Will it show out-of-state arrests?
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by strmrdr81 View Post




                              How did this work out? I have the same situation and wondering if i need to check that box for speeding / traffic tickets?
                              The bottom section on page 1 of the application is really for arrests and/or appearance tickets that are for things OTHER than moving violations. On page 2 question 6 reads:

                              "Have you received a traffic summons, or been arrested or convicted for any traffic infraction in the last five (5) years? If yes, provide a NYS Driver's Abstract or, if out of state, list the following: date, charge(s), disposition, court and police agency."

                              If you've gotten speeding tickets or other moving violations within the last 5 years, this is where you need to disclose it. You check "Yes" and then provide a statement of the circumstances and disposition. You need to provide a NYS DMV lifetime driver abstract as part of the application package regardless.

                              In my wife's case, her last moving violation was in 2000 so we did NOT disclose it and I couldn't find it on her lifetime abstract either but I'm pretty sure that's because I must have had a lawyer get it changed to a non-moving violation because I think it was a 6 pointer...LOL... She got her permit approved last month.

                              In my son's case, he got two tickets in 2015, both of which were reduced to non-moving violations so they didn't appear on his abstract either, but we disclosed them anyway. The statement we submitted is attached. When he submitted his application and the woman at the counter read the statement, she then told us we needed a copy of the summons and the court disposition which we then submitted at his fingerprint appointment. His application is still pending but he's clean as a whistle.

                              Moral of the story is: you want to err on the side of over-disclosure because if they find it and you didn't disclose, you run the risk of denial.
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                              Last edited by HyFiveGuns; 01-07-2017, 09:54 AM.

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