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    Just another Tuesday at NYPD PLD

    Nothing new or surprising here, just a little reminder that nothing has improved since NYC plunked SCOTUS.

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/nyc-la...-carry-permit/

    Manhattan lawyer battling NYPD, courts over rejected ‘carry’ permit

    A Manhattan lawyer lost a gun battle this week, but he’s not giving up his war against what he sees as the NYPD’s crackdown on the right to bear arms.

    Max Leifer sued New York’s Finest because the department’s License Division rejected his gun permit renewal application in July 2020, charging that he didn’t prove he needed to pack heat.

    “It seems that celebrities, athletes and a select few are allowed permits, while law-abiding citizens are denied their constitutional right. To be able to carry in New York you would have to join a gang,” Leifer fumed to The Post.

    The feisty 75-year-old, who has had a gun license for nearly 50 years, insists he needs the “carry” permit because he does business deals and takes client retainers that sometimes involve a “substantial amount of cash.”

    Leifer is also a partner in two bars that do cash business — Brandy Library in Tribeca and Copper & Oak on the Lower East Side.
    Max Leifer is pictured here during a firearm training course. He claims he needs to carry a gun because his business requires him to carry large amounts of cash.
    A Manhattan Supreme Court judge this week denied Leifer’s appeal to get his guns back — so the attorney is now taking his case to the appellate division.

    Amid the pandemic and the Big Apple’s staggering surge in shootings, new firearm applications nearly tripled in 2020 (9,395) from 2019 (3,766), but have dipped this year through Nov. 30 (4,312), according to NYPD data.

    The department did not say how many new applications were rejected. The Post reported last year that NYC gun-permit applications were soaring — but the NYPD wasn’t approving many.
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    The 8,088 applications for first-time pistol and rifle permits submitted from March 22, 2020 — when coronavirus-related restrictions went into effect — to the last week of that year represented a 216% increase over the 2,562 submitted between March 22 and Dec. 31, 2019, NYPD stats show. Despite that “heat” wave, only 1,087 applications were approved, far fewer than the 1,778 greenlighted during the same period in 2019, according to the official data.

    A nearly 70 percent approval rate in 2019 plunged to less than 14 percent, according to the March-December 2020 data.

    The crackdown doesn’t shock retired NYPD cop-turned-private eye Bo Dietl.

    “I know a lot a guys who tried to re-up their pistol license and they’re not allowing them to re-up. They’ve had these carry permits for 30 or 40 years. It’s not right,” he said. “The reality is a lot of these people who are being denied are good, law-abiding citizens.”

    Dietl said it was especially unfair to deny responsible gun owners given “the crime problem in New York City. With so may guns on the street. You have to equal the odds.”

    Asked if he believed the NYPD plays favorites when it comes to issuing gun permits, Dietl said, “Absolutely. … Years ago I was responsible for getting [late shock jock Don] Imus’ gun permit. There was preferential treatment for celebrities.” He added: “There has been a big crackdown since the scandal.”
    Leifer, 75, has carried a gun for over 50 years.Helayne Seidman
    In 2017, the License Division was scarred by a corruption probe, with cops accused of fast–tracking applications for gun licenses in exchange for bribes that included booze and hookers.

    “They got crazy because of that scandal,” attorney Leifer said of the division’s approval rate.

    In the meantime, Leifer’s James Bond-like Walther automatic and a .38-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver remain locked away at the 10th Precinct stationhouse in Chelsea.
    “I may have to join a gang,” Leifer fumed. “They are the only people carrying.”Helayne Seidman
    “The activities which justified granting a Business Carry License in the past, do not exist anymore,” the NYPD said in its original ruling against Leifer. “You no longer carry or transport cash. You no longer transact business involving expensive watches and artifacts. You no longer collect rent from rental properties. This amounts to a change in circumstance.”

    Leifer, who resides on Central Park West and is about to build a third lounge on 44th Street and Madison Avenue, said he needs his guns now more than ever.

    “It’s definitely BS. This is arbitrary. I cannot understand the rationale to deprive me of my rights,” he said. “I may have to join a gang. They are the only people carrying.”

    #2
    He's doing it wrong. He needs to become a popular democrat celebrity first.
    Exercise the Bill of Rights. It's good for your Constitution.

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      #3

      "The feisty 75-year-old, who has had a gun license for nearly 50 years, insists he needs the “carry” permit because he does business deals and takes client retainers that sometimes involve a “substantial amount of cash.”"

      If we let them say we need to explain why we NEED it, our rights are infringed.

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        #4
        While I agree that you shouldn't need to demonstrate a reason to carry, that's the way it's been done - so why did the article leave out such a glaring hole?

        “The activities which justified granting a Business Carry License in the past, do not exist anymore,” the NYPD said in its original ruling against Leifer. “You no longer carry or transport cash. You no longer transact business involving expensive watches and artifacts. You no longer collect rent from rental properties. This amounts to a change in circumstance.”

        WHY the hell wouldn't you ask Leifer about this when interviewing him??? Am I missing something or is this just more crappy reporting?
        “The Wise are silent, the Foolish speak, and children are thus led astray.”
        Algernon Blackwood

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          #5
          I wonder if society asset Howard Stern still has his NYC carry permit?
          Exercise the Bill of Rights. It's good for your Constitution.

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            #6
            The land of NO ...EXCEPT GIVE MORE MONEY...obey..NYC.. NYS..

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              #7
              Well we can hope SCOTUS will change this sometime between February and June of next year . . . But who knows.
              Know your rights/Refuse peacefully to consent to a search /Ask if you are free to go or are being detained/Even if you are not doing anything wrong the 4th Amendment protects you against unreasonable searches/Never say anything to law enforcement even if you think it will help you/If questioned you should clearly and unequivocally request that you would like to have an attorney present and defer any questions until then/Never go to prison because you are afraid to go to jail.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dan 0351 View Post
                While I agree that you shouldn't need to demonstrate a reason to carry, that's the way it's been done - so why did the article leave out such a glaring hole?

                “The activities which justified granting a Business Carry License in the past, do not exist anymore,” the NYPD said in its original ruling against Leifer. “You no longer carry or transport cash. You no longer transact business involving expensive watches and artifacts. You no longer collect rent from rental properties. This amounts to a change in circumstance.”

                WHY the hell wouldn't you ask Leifer about this when interviewing him??? Am I missing something or is this just more crappy reporting?
                So in the first line there, it just shows that they moved the goal posts again, thus eliminating "activities", and the ability to qualify. Such BS.

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                • Dan 0351
                  Dan 0351
                  Instructor/Collector
                  Dan 0351 commented
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                  Yes, odd. They say that the old rules no longer apply, then explain why he can't have the license because he no longer fits the old rules.

                • Range Time
                  Range Time commented
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                  I read it differently. It looks to me like he retired. He no longer does the activities that qualified him in the past and would still have qualified him now.

                #9
                Originally posted by bigbore44 View Post

                So in the first line there, it just shows that they moved the goal posts again, thus eliminating "activities", and the ability to qualify. Such BS.
                Yet some never had to qualify because of who they were.
                Exercise the Bill of Rights. It's good for your Constitution.

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                  #10
                  Just a fun aside to this licensing story. At least this policy would support their just cause bullshit.

                  NYC is sooo eff’ed up.

                  https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/nyc-bu...ccepting-cash/

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                  • 67Builder
                    67Builder
                    Middle aged and cranky
                    67Builder commented
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                    There was a business owner earlier this year that was getting threatened by the city with fines for no cash, so he put a sign up in his window that he accepted cash, but all change would be given in pennies only (legal tender). He stocked up on rolls of pennies and when I read the story, not a single person had paid in cash yet. I can’t find the story, but it was a case of using the letter of the law to fight these stupid city rules.

                  • Range Time
                    Range Time commented
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                    I'm not sure if I like that in fairness to customers...

                    ...but as a big ant-government protest it's absolutely AWESOME!

                  #11
                  Originally posted by Huntington Guy View Post
                  Just a fun aside to this licensing story. At least this policy would support their just cause bullshit.

                  NYC is sooo eff’ed up.

                  https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/nyc-bu...ccepting-cash/
                  I've been to numerous doctors offices on Long Island doing the same thing.
                  Exercise the Bill of Rights. It's good for your Constitution.

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                    #12
                    Originally posted by Barnslayer View Post
                    He's doing it wrong. He needs to become a popular democrat celebrity first.
                    Or make a big donation to DiBlasio.

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