Van Staal?

[mickeyblueyes]

I have heard so many things about them ,is it really worth getting one for bass and blues?

[LIChris]

Personally, I wouldn't make the investment unless I was fishing the surf daily or needed a blinged out reel to show my socio-economic status. Plus, the new ones are made in China.

[LazyLab]

Exactly!
Unless you intend to swim with reel or stand in the wash, spend your money on other equipment.

[Jarheadsergeant]

I have one of the newer ones. I am still trying to figure out the entire bail less things. I went surf casting maybe 30 times last season. With the amount of money I saved in lost lures the reel paid for itself....

[Jarheadsergeant]

Personally, I wouldn't make the investment unless I was fishing the surf daily or needed a blinged out reel to show my socio-economic status. Plus, the new ones are made in China.

I wasn't happy when I saw it was made in China

[mickeyblueyes]

So what do you mean the money saved in lost lures? I have lost a couple or more from bails snapping shut. If not a Van Saal what to get ? I need a small reel to surf cast with, I have a few injuries that don't let me use big heavy equipment. I am not into social status , I already know I am on the bottom under pond scum.

I have a new Penn 750ss made in the USA but its a tad to big I need the next size down, I have read that mant reels fill with sand and they are like swiss watches to clean. I would like to buy American made , but not to likely, I don't really want to spent crazy money. Any specific ideas? and how is the place next to DSI on price?

[StrongBeach]

Pick up a 706Z, save your money, the fish can't see the reel.

[mickeyblueyes]

That's a Penn? What's a good price? If you know. Thanks for you help T. When fresh water in Patchogue the stocked yesterday. I,m rusty next time

[StrongBeach]

yes, the 706Z is the bail less version of the Penn 704Z, they run about $150, a reel you will keep for a lifetime

[mickeyblueyes]

Bail less? Can I do that?

[StrongBeach]

Sure, instead of the wire bail it has a spool on the side if the reel, a lot of old timers would buy the 704Z , dump the bail and screw the spool on the side of the reel. Look at the 704Z and the 706Z on Penn's website.

[mickeyblueyes]

I like it,thanks I'm going to get one, made in USA!!

[Jarheadsergeant]

I like my Penn better than my Van Stall...

[mickeyblueyes]

I went to a web site selling the Penn 706z and it got terrible reviews,said if sand gets in your sunk,and other issues, like spotty quality control.
I always wanted to get the Shimano Sedonda maybe I should just get that one .

What don't you like about the Van Staal? And only one of them is sealed the rest aren't ,

[Jarheadsergeant]

I went to a web site selling the Penn 706z and it got terrible reviews,said if sand gets in your sunk,and other issues, like spotty quality control.
I always wanted to get the Shimano Sedonda maybe I should just get that one .

What don't you like about the Van Staal? And only one of them is sealed the rest aren't ,

It is tighter bc it is sealed. You shouldn't be dropping your reel in the sand. My penn does bind ip awful when it gets sand in it

[mickeyblueyes]

I don't usually drop stuff in the sand, every once in a while something odd will happen, like the wind blows it over,or a rouge wave smacks you. Not on a reg.basis. I take a slide in camper out am there for several seconds days at a time.
If you fish Demo maybe I will see you.