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    Is Trump good for the 2nd Amendment?

    Is Trump good for the 2nd Amendment?

    By Sam Rolley / Personal Liberty Digest

    Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump has pledged to stand up for the rights of the nation's "law-abiding gun owners" repeatedly on the campaign trail. But some conservative 2 nd Amendment supporters remain unconvinced of his sincerity on the issue- and for good reason, considering Trump's fickle statements about gun ownership over the years.

    Over the years, Trump has spoken out in support of so-called common sense gun control measures proposed by politicians on the left. And back in 2000, Trump blatantly stated his support for increased gun control measures in his book The America We Deserve.

    "I support the ban on assault weapons and I support slightly longer waiting periods to purchase a gun," he wrote.

    And for no-compromise 2 nd Amendment supporters, that's a big deal.

    In a recent interview, Gun Owners of America director Larry Pratt said he can't endorse Trump until his organization is sure the candidate is serious about the 2 nd Amendment.

    "[Trump] now says he's a big supporter of people owning guns and supporting Second Amendment," he said. "In tone that sounds like improvement, but we're withholding our endorsement until we get the specifics."

    And back in February, editor of the popular Bearing Arms website Bob Owens said that a Trump White House could destroy the 2 ndAmendment.

    Just as we've discussed many times here, Owens says the future of American gun control boils down to the next president's Supreme Court picks.

    He wrote:

    Trump changes party affiliations from Democrat to Republican to Independent with seeming reckless abandon. It appears that his party loyalty isn't based upon any set of bedrock principles, but is instead the result of a sort of every-changing political calculus based upon the simple theory, "What will benefit me the most in the short term?"

    Mr. Trump's lack of conservative principles, and his heavily-documented history of using the bludgeon of the law against individual citizens when it benefits his bottom line-a Clintonesque authoritarianism-suggests that Trump simply cannot be trusted to put a textualist judge on the U.S. Supreme Court to replace Justice Antonin Scalia, who died in Texas of natural causes this past weekend.

    Trump's lack of any firm principles suggests that he'd instead nominate someone like himself, an opportunist, with no firm principles. As supporters of the entire Constitution, we simply cannot risk a candidate with so little real regard for constitutional principles, including our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

    Owens said the way things look, he'll either abstain from voting in November or find a third-party alternative.

    Other 2 nd Amendment supporters are taking Trump's word and blaming his gun control inconsistencies on changes in belief that have occurred over the span of several years. And while he's not yet earned the powerful organization's endorsement, the National Rifle Association hasn't been too hard on Trump for his past positions.

    For 2 nd Amendment supporters who are also currently on the Trump wagon, his statements about the right to bear arms are worth careful observation over the next several months.



    Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After covering community news and politics, Rolley took a position at Personal Liberty Media Group where could better hone his focus on his true passions: national politics and liberty issues. In his daily columns and reports, Rolley works to help readers understand which lies are perpetuated by the mainstream media and to stay on top of issues ignored by more conventional media outlets.

    http://gunmartblog.com/2016/05/17/tr...2nd-amendment/
    Pat ------> NRA Endowment Member

    #2
    He may not be ideal but he is not Hillary. I'd rather take my chances with Trump.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Huntington Guy View Post
      He may not be ideal but he is not Hillary. I'd rather take my chances with Trump.
      Yep!!
      Later, Steve
      People are crazy and times are strange
      I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range
      I used to care but........ things have changed

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        #4
        They're right. He just might not be perfect. I guess I'll have to default to a democrat...

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          #5
          I guess Bearing Arms website owner, Bob Owens, is a traitor

          In all seriousness, Trump is all over the freaking map. Let's see who he picks for his VP & wait for some other pronouncements before we swear a loyalty oath to this clown. He may get it done. He may be worse than Hitlery as hard as that is to imagine.

          Besides, national elections are not everything. The 2A battle has gone pretty well outside of a few states. The SC appointments do scare me, but Trump may suck as far as this goes too. Can we ask this guy some hard questions before we just give him our vote?
          I will be celebrating on Jan. 20th regardless of Nov 8th.

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          • Aquabach
            Aquabach commented
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            Huh?
            Anyone who needs more information about Trump to figure out that Hillary is infinitely worse is IMO either delusional, scared of upsetting the status quo cronie capitalism and RINO establishment or simply full of shit.

          • HowardRoark
            HowardRoark commented
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            Everyone is angry. I get it. I'm angry. But if Trump stands for nothing, how can you be sure that he's better than Hitlery? Many believe, & I don't subscribe to this just yet, that a Leftist under the Democratic banner is not as harmful as a Leftist under the Republican banner.

            I will say that if you think the 2A is more important than anything else which means you're a single-issue voter than Trump appears better than Hitlery. But it may not be as sharp a distinction as what we'd hope for.

          #6
          Like it or not, he's our ONLY option.

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            #7
            I don't always agree with Mark Levin but he made an interesting comment tonight. As Americans we should be country first before party or candidate, the fact that Donnie the Draft Dodger is the only game in town should not stop our dialogue.

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            • HowardRoark
              HowardRoark commented
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              Exactly. Levin, IMO, is by far the best commentator out there. He has the most integrity & is focused on the right issues. His standard of evaluation is adherence to the Constitution & I agree with him that ultimately our only solution is limited government & personal responsibility.

              BTW - I only started listening to him about a month ago after a long hiatus. Rush's failure to take a stance was a disappointment for me. Hannity abandoned all his principles to back Trump. Savage, while entertaining, also doesn't care about a constitutionally-based government.

            #8
            Originally posted by Huntington Guy View Post
            He may not be ideal but he is not Hillary. I'd rather take my chances with Trump.
            Pretty much feel the same way.
            “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." - Benjamin Franklin

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              #9
              The way I look at it, Trump is not Hillary.
              "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
              - Thomas Jefferson

              "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
              - James Madison

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                #10
                Originally posted by Long Beach Tony View Post
                I don't always agree with Mark Levin but he made an interesting comment tonight. As Americans we should be country first before party or candidate, the fact that Donnie the Draft Dodger is the only game in town should not stop our dialogue.
                Care to post the info & links on him being a "Draft Dodger"?
                If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

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                  #11
                  Originally posted by Tonto View Post

                  Care to post the info & links on him being a "Draft Dodger"?
                  He got 4 student deferments as did 15.4 million others and when he was finally declared available for service he failed a medical. Even if he had not failed his medical he would never have been selected as his number was 356 and they never got above 300. But it is far easier to call him a draft dodger than to look up the facts.
                  Last edited by Slyder; 05-17-2016, 08:13 PM.

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                  • Finicky Fat Guy
                    Finicky Fat Guy commented
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                    From Wikipedia, with references:

                    "The Vietnam era version of Webster's Unabridged Dictionary (1968) simply defined draft dodger as "one who avoids military service" regardless how it was done.[1] Some means of draft avoidance:

                    *Seeking excusal from military service due to health reasons - this would be considered evasion if the purported health issue was feigned or overstated.

                    *Seeking and receiving a student deferment. This would be considered evasion if false or misleading academic credentials were used. Some notable US figures avoided the draft as students, such as Bill Clinton,[2] Joe Biden, and Dick Cheney.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_...#United_States

                    It was long before the interwebs was invented by Al Gore but I recall that Bill Clinton was called a Draft Dodger by many people were calling him a Draft Dodger. It's not a legal term or one that is defined strictly. It's a matter of opinion. To many people, if you did anything to avoid getting drafted you were a dodger. So, Trump got student deferments. Calling him a draft dodger isn't saying he did anything illegal or even unethical.

                  #12
                  Originally posted by Slyder View Post

                  He got 4 student deferments as did 15.4 million others and when he was finally declared available for service he failed a medical. Even if he had not failed his medical he would never have been selected as his number was 356 and they never got above 300. But it is far easier to call him a draft dodger than to look up the facts.
                  That's what I saw too. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-draft-dodger/

                  If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

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                    #13
                    Originally posted by Slyder View Post

                    He got 4 student deferments as did 15.4 million others and when he was finally declared available for service he failed a medical. Even if he had not failed his medical he would never have been selected as his number was 356 and they never got above 300. But it is far easier to call him a draft dodger than to look up the facts.
                    To me - this kind of character assassination of Trump shouldn't be the focus of Constitutional conservatives. I don't trust any stories at this point about his history as the media will do anything to destroy him now.

                    I want to know: What are his policies? Specifically, how is he going to shrink government & ground the federal government back to Constitutional principles.

                    I will be celebrating on Jan. 20th regardless of Nov 8th.

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                      #14
                      The reality is, it'll be Trump against Hillary. Unfortunately, my money is on Hillary for the win. But that's another discussion.

                      Hillary has come out and stated the Constitution is a "living document" meaning, it'll mean whatever she says it means. And she'll be backed by her Supreme Court.

                      Trump is an unknown. I see nothing in his past where he has crusaded for the Constitution and Trump as a New Yorker, I've never seen him take up the Second Amendment torch for us peasants here. As far as I'm concerned, Trump has always been for Trump.

                      Having said this, there's a chance he'll pick a Supreme Court nominee that will at least be close to viewing the Constitution with original intended meaning. Not that he'll personally know anything about this but somebody 'll be there to whisper in his ear. And, I don't think he's ready to start, at day one, making "sensible", "reasonable", and "common sense" executive actions against the Second Amendment.

                      As somewhat of a Libertarian with originalist views on the Constitution, I think Trump is an idiot. So, do I pick the one that I know will be a train wreck? Or the one that I hope won't be a train wreck?

                      Paul

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                        #15
                        Originally posted by lynyrd View Post
                        The reality is, it'll be Trump against Hillary. Unfortunately, my money is on Hillary for the win. But that's another discussion.

                        Hillary has come out and stated the Constitution is a "living document" meaning, it'll mean whatever she says it means. And she'll be backed by her Supreme Court.

                        Trump is an unknown. I see nothing in his past where he has crusaded for the Constitution and Trump as a New Yorker, I've never seen him take up the Second Amendment torch for us peasants here. As far as I'm concerned, Trump has always been for Trump.

                        Having said this, there's a chance he'll pick a Supreme Court nominee that will at least be close to viewing the Constitution with original intended meaning. Not that he'll personally know anything about this but somebody 'll be there to whisper in his ear. And, I don't think he's ready to start, at day one, making "sensible", "reasonable", and "common sense" executive actions against the Second Amendment.

                        As somewhat of a Libertarian with originalist views on the Constitution, I think Trump is an idiot. So, do I pick the one that I know will be a train wreck? Or the one that I hope won't be a train wreck?

                        Paul
                        All legitimate points, but considering that 60% of GOP voters didn't pick Trump, isn't it also legitimate to ask what this guy actually stands for instead of just saying 'anything but Hillary'?

                        I'm not a freaking drone. I'm a citizen of a once great Republic. I want some policy positions from the oompa loompa before I say 'doopity doo'.
                        I will be celebrating on Jan. 20th regardless of Nov 8th.

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                        • lynyrd
                          lynyrd commented
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                          Absolutely! Ask questions. You got questions. I got questions. Others got questions.

                          The fact that a large part of our population is chanting, "Trump! Trump! Trump!"; disturbs me because most have no clue how our government is supposed to work. They just hate Hillary. And I'd be willing to bet many don't know why they hate her.

                          But at the end of the day, the reality is, it will be Trump or Hillary.

                          Paul
                          Last edited by lynyrd; 05-18-2016, 01:46 PM.
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