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    Why the Supreme Court Won't Impact Gun Rights

    Why the Supreme Court Won't Impact Gun Rights

    Guns are the new abortion. During the confirmation battles over Supreme Court nominees in the 1980s and 1990s, it sometimes seemed as if the only relevant question was how the prospective justice would vote on reproductive rights. Would the nominee vote to uphold Roe v. Wade, the controversial decision recognizing the right to choose, or overturn it? Although a Supreme Court justice votes on thousands of different issues, a spectator could be forgiven for suspecting that abortion was the only item on the Supreme Court’s agenda.

    In the next confirmation hearings for a Supreme Court nominee, be it Merrick Garland or someone else nominated by a President Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, guns will likely play the role that abortion used to play. Questions about how the nominee would handle Second Amendment cases are certain to dominate the hearings—even though the next Supreme Court justice is not likely to radically shift constitutional law on questions of gun control. Guns will be at the forefront of the confirmation hearings because of the Supreme Court’s 2008 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, the landmark ruling in which the justices, in an opinion written by the now-deceased Antonin Scalia, held for the first time that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual’s right to own guns. Before then, guns were primarily a political issue—one for legislatures to sort out without much judicial oversight. Now guns are also unambiguously a constitutional issue, which means the justices, not elected lawmakers, have the final say.

    Heller was a 5-4 decision. Without Scalia’s vote, there would not have been a majority of justices in favor of an individual-rights reading of the Second Amendment. The National Rifle Association argues that if Scalia were to be replaced by Garland, or any other liberal to moderate justice, Heller would be overturned and your right to keep and bear arms would be little more than a memory.

    Of course, the NRA issues ominous warnings about the end of gun rights in America at least every four years. And yet, even with two terms of President Barack Obama and two Obama appointments to the Supreme Court, there are approximately 320 million guns in the United States. Despite what the NRA called Obama’s “10-Point Plan to ‘Change’ the Second Amendment,” gun rights are alive and well in America, and gun sales are at historic highs. In most states, the NRA has won favorable legislation so often that the nation’s leading gun-advocacy group is left to push for guns in the few places left from which they are usually excluded, like kindergarten classrooms and churches.

    The NRA’s remarkable record of legislative success highlights one reason gun rights will not be significantly affected by a Justice Garland. Gun rights in America have been vigorously and successfully protected by the elected branches of government. Long before the Supreme Court weighed in with Heller, law-abiding Americans had the ability to have a gun in their home for self-defense (with the exception of residents of Washington, D.C., whose laws were struck down in Heller). In most states, it is easy to obtain a permit to carry a gun in public—and, increasingly, states are passing laws allowing public carry without any permit. Even if Heller were overturned, current state and federal laws giving people easy access to guns will remain on the books. Don’t expect the lawmakers behind Georgia’s “Guns Everywhere” law to suddenly reverse course on guns just because Heller is overturned. In any event, Heller is unlikely to be overturned. There are several high-profile cases that are likely to be reversed by a liberal Supreme Court, such as Citizens United and Shelby County. Heller, however, is not one of them. While there is no doubt that several of the justices believe Heller was wrongly decided, they have little reason to overturn the decision and every reason to maintain it.

    Heller was a narrow decision that did not fundamentally reshape America’s regime of gun laws. The Court held that individuals have a right to have handguns in their homes. But only two cities, Washington and Chicago, and no states, had laws prohibiting handgun possession. (Chicago allowed residents to have long guns for self-defense.) In the eight years since Heller, there have been several hundred lawsuits challenging nearly every type of gun law on the books. Only a few laws, however, have been invalidated.

    Even the justices who dissented in Heller now understand that the decision has not proved to be a roadblock to effective gun laws. All the laws at the top of the gun-control agenda—universal background checks, assault-weapons bans, and restrictions on high-capacity magazines—have all survived judicial scrutiny since Heller. Why would justices favorable to gun control vote to overturn a case that doesn’t actually stop lawmakers from regulating guns?

    Plus, there is one really strong reason not to overturn Heller: It would spark a backlash that would make the political movement to reverse Roe seem like a schoolyard kerfuffle. The NRA would push for a constitutional amendment to enshrine gun rights and would likely include language, like it has in a series of recent amendments to state constitutions, making it much harder to restrict guns. Although most proposals to amend the Constitution are quixotic, gun politics are such that 38 states might well pass a new, stronger Second Amendment in a heartbeat.

    The justices know this—as do gun-control advocates. Several of the latter have told me they would not ask the Court to overturn Heller, even if a liberal is appointed to fill Scalia’s seat. In March, the liberal justices explicitly endorsed Heller in a case out of Massachusetts dealing with a ban on stun guns. The Massachusetts courts had upheld the ban, distinguishing Heller. The Supreme Court unanimously held that the Massachusetts courts erred, that Heller was not distinguishable, and that the judges should take a second look at the stun-gun ban in light of a more robust understanding of Heller’s protections. If the liberal justices were eager to overturn Heller, they could have easily voted to uphold the stun-gun ban.

    What the liberal justices would likely do is refuse to expand Heller significantly. They would not read the Second Amendment to prohibit bans on assault rifles or to overturn “may-issue” concealed-carry permitting laws that only allow people with a good reason to carry guns in public. Then again, the Court effectively reached the same result when Scalia was still alive, refusing to review lower-court decisions upholding bans on assault rifles and may-issue permitting. The more things change… Nor would a new conservative justice, say one appointed by Trump, change things all that much. He would replace Scalia, who, along with Justice Clarence Thomas, was already eager to read Heller more broadly. A Justice Ted Cruz, for example, would still face the same problem that Scalia faced, namely the moderate positions of Justice Anthony Kennedy and possibly Chief Justice John Roberts. Presumably, one or both of these justices are the reason the Court has not read the Second Amendment more broadly. They are likely the reason the Court has previously allowed the assault-weapons bans and may-issue permitting laws to stand.

    Senators will nonetheless hyper-focus on Heller because the gun issue plays to both sides’ bases. The GOP knows that fighting to preserve Heller, despite its limits, is good politics and helps with campaign fundraising. The Democrats feel the same way, only about preserving the ability of governments to regulate guns.

    So while there is sure to be much discussion of the Second Amendment in the coming confirmation hearings—if, indeed, any are forthcoming—the dirty little secret about Heller is that it doesn’t matter very much. Gun rights in America are, and have been for a long time, protected by a forceful political movement led by the NRA, not by the courts applying the Second Amendment.

    The personnel on the Supreme Court may change but gun rights, which are part of the nation’s political culture and tradition, are unlikely to be significantly impacted.

    This article is part of “Confirmations: The Battle Over the Constitution,” a partnership with the National Constitution Center.
    The Second Amendment has been vigorously protected by the elected branches of government—don’t look for the next Court to change that.
    Pat ------> NRA Lifetime Endowment Member #FAAFO

    #2
    Author Adam Winkler says rest easily everyone, nothing to see here...

    Wake up Adam, those sweet dreams you're having are delusional...
    True freedom and our inherent responsibility:
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...18&version=NLT
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...hronicles+7:14

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      #3
      He is down playing the impact of the heller decision and what it affirmed for gun owners.

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        #4
        Bet some folks in Britain and Australia were saying something similar before.....
        "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction" R.R.

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          #5
          Originally posted by C6NY View Post
          Bet some folks in Britain and Australia were saying something similar before.....
          But Britain and Australia never had the 2nd amendment, so it was much easier to take guns away there.

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          • C6NY
            C6NY commented
            Editing a comment
            2nd A or not, Liberals always do their best to get their way especially on issues that are most important to them. There are now more D then R in this country and especially in the all important swing states. If Clinton wins I think it's safe to say that the amendment will be in big trouble.

          • Hannco
            Hannco commented
            Editing a comment
            I agree 100% with C6NY. Our Constitution is based upon "Inalienable Rights", which are defined by our Constitution but not limited to our people.

            This is about limits placed upon "Individual Freedom of Choice" in Countries that claim that banner but choose otherwise.

          #6
          bullshit they blame guns for murders. They don't blame knives cars or poison. They will gladly reverse it first chance they get. There interpitation of the
          second amendment may allow us to own muskets if we promise not to buy powder
          let's make america great again

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            #7
            I understand where he's coming from. The SC is ultimately a political institution. It may not seem like it but if you've read The Brethren: Inside the Supreme Court, you'll see that the Justices & staff are acutely aware of the political ramifications of their decisions. Even with a Hillary Presidency & a Democratic Congress, you'll still have a majority of States run by Republican governors & you'll have the NRA which can still run circles around any anti-group at this point. More importantly, you have upward of 60 million gun owners. I don't know how many are FUDDs or casual owners, but there are still many, many owners who are not going to comply with any confiscation scheme. If the Feds push this issue, there will be blood & I'm not being hyperbolic & I'm not saying that I would lead the charge or kill anyone. I do know that there are parts of this country & people who will not give up their firearms without a fight & when that takes place, all bets are off. You may get insurgency movements, political assassinations, etc.

            I don't believe there are many politicians who have the stomach to push for outright confiscation. No, they'll play the long game & whittle away at our rights until it becomes like smoking & you'll just be viewed as a pariah if you own firearms. I don't think this election will lead to confiscation. If it does, then we must do what's needed to defend our rights.
            And, if we don't, then those in the Free States will.
            Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

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            • Engineco54
              Engineco54 commented
              Editing a comment
              I am similarly inclined

            #8
            Originally posted by Havfun View Post
            bullshit they blame guns for murders. They don't blame knives cars or poison. They will gladly reverse it first chance they get. There interpitation of the
            second amendment may allow us to own muskets if we promise not to buy powder
            Exactly, like The British did in 1775 to the people of Williamsburg and tried to do in Lexington, we find ourselvess fighting this battle 241 years later in a supposed free society.
            True freedom and our inherent responsibility:
            https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...18&version=NLT
            https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...hronicles+7:14

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              #9
              Originally posted by HowardRoark View Post
              I understand where he's coming from. The SC is ultimately a political institution. It may not seem like it but if you've read The Brethren: Inside the Supreme Court, you'll see that the Justices & staff are acutely aware of the political ramifications of their decisions. Even with a Hillary Presidency & a Democratic Congress, you'll still have a majority of States run by Republican governors & you'll have the NRA which can still run circles around any anti-group at this point. More importantly, you have upward of 60 million gun owners. I don't know how many are FUDDs or casual owners, but there are still many, many owners who are not going to comply with any confiscation scheme. If the Feds push this issue, there will be blood & I'm not being hyperbolic & I'm not saying that I would lead the charge or kill anyone. I do know that there are parts of this country & people who will not give up their firearms without a fight & when that takes place, all bets are off. You may get insurgency movements, political assassinations, etc.

              I don't believe there are many politicians who have the stomach to push for outright confiscation. No, they'll play the long game & whittle away at our rights until it becomes like smoking & you'll just be viewed as a pariah if you own firearms. I don't think this election will lead to confiscation. If it does, then we must do what's needed to defend our rights.
              And, if we don't, then those in the Free States will.


              The liberal Gallop poll above states that 41% of American homes own guns.

              The US census says that there are are now 323,728,000+ Americans. http://www.census.gov/popclock/

              Your 60 million gun owners is conservitive, less than 1/2 the actual number of 133 million.

              That said, there is a difference between "Inalienable Rights" as defined by our Constitution and the the current "Rule of Law".

              There are 190,000,000 Americans who choose not to exercise their rights afforded to them and their opinions are being manipulated daily by pop culture and globalists.

              If you don't think your rights are under attack, you're drinking the coolaid.
              True freedom and our inherent responsibility:
              https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...18&version=NLT
              https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...hronicles+7:14

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                #10
                Originally posted by Hannco View Post


                The liberal Gallop poll above states that 41% of American homes own guns.

                The US census says that there are are now 323,728,000+ Americans. http://www.census.gov/popclock/

                Your 60 million gun owners is conservitive, less than 1/2 the actual number of 133 million.

                That said, there is a difference between "Inalienable Rights" as defined by our Constitution and the the current "Rule of Law".

                There are 190,000,000 Americans who choose not to exercise their rights afforded to them and their opinions are being manipulated daily by pop culture and globalists.

                If you don't think your rights are under attack, you're drinking the coolaid.
                I used a low number just to show how many people we're still talking about. Of course, our rights are under attack. But, there are limits & even the politicians & judges know this. I believe it's a mistake to get too caught up in national electoral politics. There are many ways to fight & many fronts available.

                Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

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                  #11
                  The author may be correct in his analysis... but ....why take a chance ...

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