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    House no fly/no buy bill introduced to bipartisan support

    House no fly/no buy bill introduced to bipartisan support


    A group of bipartisan House lawmakers including Congressman Seth Moulton, D-Mass, debuted the latest attempt at barring gun sales to those on terror watch lists. (Photo: Seth Moulton Facebook)

    A group of moderate lawmakers from both parties joined forces last week to introduce a bill to bring increased scrutiny to those on certain watch lists when buying guns.

    A close copy of a similar measure proposed in the deadlocked Senate, the proposal aims to draw from a smaller list of individuals than other more sweeping bills that could have amounted to as many as a million names. A South Florida Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo, joined by seven other legislators including five Democrats, sponsors it.

    “After the horrific massacre in Orlando, and countless other mass shootings across the country, the American people want answers,” Curbelo said in a press conferenceFriday. “Congress must act, at the very least, to ensure individuals on the No-Fly list and Selectee list cannot purchase a firearm. This legislation does just that and ensures due process for law-abiding citizens.”

    The Terrorist Firearms Prevention Act, introduced Friday as H.R.5576, would use membership on either of the two smaller surveillance lists to allow the attorney general to deny gun transfers. The lists the proposal would draw from currently comprise 109,000 total persons, of which 2,700 are Americans. Those who are denied would be able to appeal the decision.

    It also gives the Justice Department discretion to allow sales to flagged individuals to proceed with transfers to preserve on-going investigations.

    Further, it allows a “look-back” provision to monitor gun purchases made up to five years after an individual is removed from the list. This final act will extend to those across the broader Terrorist Screening Database as a whole.

    The proposal came just a day after Speaker Paul Ryan recessed Congress’s lower chamber and House Dems brought to a close a 26-hour sit-in on the floor of the Capitol.

    With the House in recess until July 5, lawmakers are taking advantage of their vacation to assure their constituents back home that they are hard at work passing new gun control regulations with Rep. Diana Degette holding a rally in Denver and Rep. David Cicilline, who has an assault weapon ban proposal pending, announcing events in Rhode Island. This ties in with a National Day of Action called for on June 29 in a letter signed by signed by Cicilline along with U.S. Reps. Katherine Clark, Robin Kelly, John Larson, John Lewis and Mike Thompson.

    “People are calling for action, rightful action,” Rep. Paul Tonko, D-NY, told local media. “If you call that a stunt, you know, see it for what it is, a human outcry. Certainly a passionate plea, and most definitely rightful indignation for lack of progress, for lack of respect shown.”

    The bill has been referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary; however, Democrat leadership is promising to try to move on floor votes as soon as possible with Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md., vowing not to stand down.

    A 52-46 test vote was held last week on the bill’s Senate companion, falling short of the 60-vote threshold needed to pass.
    A group of moderate lawmakers from both parties joined forces last week to introduce a bill to bring increased scrutiny to those on certain watch lists when buying guns.
    Pat ------> NRA Lifetime Endowment Member #FAAFO

    #2
    So a person is too dangerous to be allowed on a plane, and now too dangerous to exercise their Constitutional right.

    But they can still walk around freely.

    I am not armed out of fear of who's in front of me.
    I am armed out of love of those behind me.

    Anyone who says money doesn't matter to them is either a FOOL or a LIAR or BOTH!

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      #3
      Originally posted by LiDad View Post
      So a person is too dangerous to be allowed on a plane, and now too dangerous to exercise their Constitutional right.

      But they can still walk around freely.
      If you think about it logically... blood will shoot out your nose.

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        #4
        Then also take away their right to vote too.
        I am not armed out of fear of who's in front of me.
        I am armed out of love of those behind me.

        Anyone who says money doesn't matter to them is either a FOOL or a LIAR or BOTH!

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          #5
          Originally posted by LiDad View Post
          Then also take away their right to vote too.
          They cannot do that, as you may have heard, in April, the Governor of Virginia, a personal friend of Bill and Hill, restored voting rights to over 200,000 released felons, basically to buy the swing state for Cankles. Oh, and by the way, he was Cankles campaign manager in 2008!
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            #6
            If you're too dangerous to fly you're too dangerous to even be in this country.
            Let the deportations commence!
            SHADAP VARMINT!

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              #7
              Originally posted by LiDad View Post
              So a person is too dangerous to be allowed on a plane, and now too dangerous to exercise their Constitutional right.

              But they can still walk around freely.
              Yep. Complete violation of the 6th amendment IMO...


              Amendment VI
              In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

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                #8
                Let's not let a silly thing like due process get in the way of an agenda

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                  #9
                  " Those who are denied would be able to appeal the decision."

                  Granted, I haven't read the bill.... But I'm guessing this isn't going to be an efficient process. There won't be an actual dept to call, a person to speak to, something that can be resolved quickly. I'm guessing the FBI will route you to the ATF, then back to DHS, then back to FBI. Callers will be given the run around at best.

                  With 'so few Americans' on the list, why isn't the gentle natured fun loving FBI offering to host local office interviews with concerned 'on list' citizens? I'll tell you why, because BIG GOVERNMENT don't guve a shit about taking away a persons rights, or helping you get them back.

                  I hope I'm wrong.


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                    #10
                    I bet those democrats are sorry they changed the senate rules that requires a 60 vote majority to pass.... I' also bet they didn't give a fuck when they had over 60 votes in the senate to do whatever they wanted....

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by MSA77 View Post

                      They cannot do that, as you may have heard, in April, the Governor of Virginia, a personal friend of Bill and Hill, restored voting rights to over 200,000 released felons, basically to buy the swing state for Cankles. Oh, and by the way, he was Cankles campaign manager in 2008!
                      Ah. But that's just it. They have not been convicted or even arrest for anything!

                      Just "suspect" or "potential".

                      I am not armed out of fear of who's in front of me.
                      I am armed out of love of those behind me.

                      Anyone who says money doesn't matter to them is either a FOOL or a LIAR or BOTH!

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