NORINCO SKS C&R ELIGIBLE???

[Gunwhore]

Hi. Looking for an opinion from my fellow CR Holders. An SKS stamped Norinco. Its not in the book. Does anyone have an opinion on whether it is eligible or not. I know surplus chinese sks are sold on JG everyday as eligible. Not sure bout the Norincos. Thanks.

[Happy Camper]

I don't think any Chinese guns are C&R eligible due to China not sharing their production records, but I don't have a source for you. Can't remember where I read that.

[LI Ammo]

Many more SKS are not C&R than the number that are.
Some folks have spent significant time on this issue. Here is a link to a good bit of "research". Remember, it's the internet, it could still be suspect.
Good Luck.

[LI Ammo]

One other thought. Since the Safe Act requires a NICS check through a dealer, is there a seller that will send you a C&R Norinco in New York? A C&R holder can not complete a NICS.

This point could be argued forever, to no real conclusion, but the fact that you can turn in your C&R license at any time and the C&R license books don't ever have to go back to the ATF if you turn in your license, and the guns can stay with you as your own, means that the transfer is to you and the rifle doesn't "sit on the books", the rifle is yours. It seems risky for a dealer to send you any SKS, older or newer in light of the Safe Act.

[Gunwhore]

One other thought. Since the Safe Act requires a NICS check through a dealer, is there a seller that will send you a C&R Norinco in New York? A C&R holder can not complete a NICS.

This point could be argued forever, to no real conclusion, but the fact that you can turn in your C&R license at any time and the C&R license books don't ever have to go back to the ATF if you turn in your license, and the guns can stay with you as your own, means that the transfer is to you and the rifle doesn't "sit on the books", the rifle is yours. It seems risky for a dealer to send you any SKS, older or newer in light of the Safe Act.

You just raised an excellent point and answered my question. As an 03, in NYS, I cannot do a face to face with an 03. I must NICS it. However if the rifle is C&R eligible, NYS has determined that NYS 03 residents can continue to purchase from out of state regardless of the Safe Act. Which I continued to do after the Safe Act was enacted. Thanks again for the info.

[Southshorerob]

I was under the impression that C&R went away when the Safe Act came to town .

[cityrepo61]

I was under the impression that C&R went away when the Safe Act came to town .

So was I

[Gunwhore]

I was under the impression that C&R went away when the Safe Act came to town .

In 2013, I spoke with an investigator via the hotline. He couldn't answer the CR question but told me someone would call me back. Shortly thereafter I received a call from a gentleman who told me he was in the legal affairs office which encompassed the Safe Act. Or something to that effect. I have a record of the call. He told me even though the passage of the law states dealer and not collector, the State was interpreting 03 collectors as dealers for out of state transfers. He also said nothing in writing exists to verify what he was telling me. I'm not suggesting any of my fellow 03s take my response as Gospel. We live in troubled times. But I have continued to collect with my 03 license.

[LI Ammo]

Good info, I hope they put that in writing for everyone.
Won't help with the Norinco however, since we've already discussed that a rife stamped Norinco has an origin date of 1980 or newer.

[Gunwhore]

1980 exactly. Factory 26. It's stamped with a P on the end which someone said meant it was sent to Pakistan for the Afghan War. But the rifle is to clean for that so I don't know.