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    LEOs...a stopped school bus question

    LEOs...I have a stopped school bus question for you.

    The scene would be a 4 way intersection, stop signs at each corner.

    A school bus is at the stop sign, headed South. it is stopped, with it's red lights flashing & picking up kids.

    A North bound car approaches the intersection, across from the bus.

    After making a complete stop, at the stop sign, is the car allowed to proceed to make a left or right turn?


    If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

    #2
    IMO....If the Red Light are flashing just stay right where you are.
    No turns allowed.

    "Any man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards. More than that no man is entitled, and less than that no man shall have."
    President T. Roosevelt

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      #3
      I would say yes, with the caveat that there are no other circumstances that would disallow the car from turning.

      What do I win?

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        #4
        Originally posted by VietVet View Post
        IMO....If the Red Light are flashing just stay right where you are.
        No turns allowed.
        That's what I would do. But I have seen others say you are allowed to turn, because you are not passing the stopped bus.
        If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Helmup View Post
          I would say yes, with the caveat that there are no other circumstances that would disallow the car from turning.

          What do I win?
          I don't know the correct answer. And yes, no other circumstances.
          If Sonny had EZ-Pass, he'd have survived that hit...

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            #6
            In New York you are required to stop for a school bus with flashing lights even on the opposite side of a divided highway. So I would assume you would have to stop in this scenario.

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            • Tonto
              Tonto commented
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              If you were going top have to pass the bus, I'd agree, 110%. But the situation is that you are turning before & not passing the bus.

            #7
            ยง 1174. Overtaking and passing school bus. (a) The driver of a vehicle upon a public highway, street or private road upon meeting or overtaking from either direction any school bus marked and equipped as provided in subdivision twenty of section three hundred seventy-five of this chapter which has stopped on the public highway, street or private road for the purpose of receiving or discharging any passengers, or which has stopped because a school bus in front of it has stopped to receive or discharge any passengers, shall stop the vehicle before reaching such school bus when there is in operation on said school bus a red visual signal as specified in subdivision twenty of section three hundred seventy-five of this chapter and said driver shall not proceed until such school bus resumes motion, or until signaled by the driver or a police officer to proceed. For the purposes of this section, and in addition to the provisions of section one hundred thirty-four of this chapter, the term "public highway" shall mean any area used for the parking of motor vehicles or used as a driveway located on the grounds of a school or of a board of cooperative educational services facility or any area used as a means of access to and egress from such school or facility.

            The phrasing "either direction" to me, does not include adjacent streets. If it said "any direction", I would say that you could not turn.

            Comes down to letter of the law vs. intent of the law.

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              #8
              You are not passing the school bus, so yes you may proceed. People who sit there on flashing yellow lights or fail to make a turn as you described are unaware of the law.
              The escape is complete. The inventor of Hawk fishing. (soon to be seen on ESPN 8 the Ocho)

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                #9
                100% ok, no doubt about it.
                Know your rights/Refuse peacefully to consent to a search /Ask if you are free to go or are being detained/Even if you are not doing anything wrong the 4th Amendment protects you against unreasonable searches/Never say anything to law enforcement even if you think it will help you/If questioned you should clearly and unequivocally request that you would like to have an attorney present and defer any questions until then/Never go to prison because you are afraid to go to jail.

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                  #10
                  It has nothing to do with passing the bus. It has to do with students crossing roadways. Lights will flash until students are safely across roads. That includes in front of the bus and to the sides, so any turn would be illegal.

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                  • Helmup
                    Helmup commented
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                    In the scenario given, the bus was picking up, not discharging.
                    Even without a school bus, if there are people crossing, a car cannot proceed after stopping at a stop sign.

                  #11
                  Was anyone's rights violated?

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                  • Tonto
                    Tonto commented
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                    LOL.....I think they turned left instead

                  #12
                  Originally posted by Tonto View Post
                  LEOs...I have a stopped school bus question for you.

                  The scene would be a 4 way intersection, stop signs at each corner.

                  A school bus is at the stop sign, headed South. it is stopped, with it's red lights flashing & picking up kids.

                  A North bound car approaches the intersection, across from the bus.

                  After making a complete stop, at the stop sign, is the car allowed to proceed to make a left or right turn?


                  Jan.
                  So....... you're posting the same thing on both sites?
                  At the same time?
                  I don't know exactly why, but it kinda makes me feel like I have fleas or something.
                  Carry on.

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                  • Postal Bob
                    Postal Bob commented
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                    Says the man who obviously is hanging out there too, lol.

                  • Aquabach
                    Aquabach commented
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                    Fleas?

                  #13
                  Originally posted by Tonto View Post
                  LEOs...I have a stopped school bus question for you.

                  The scene would be a 4 way intersection, stop signs at each corner.

                  A school bus is at the stop sign, headed South. it is stopped, with it's red lights flashing & picking up kids.

                  A North bound car approaches the intersection, across from the bus.

                  After making a complete stop, at the stop sign, is the car allowed to proceed to make a left or right turn?


                  Couldn't get the answer on LIF huh? SMDH!
                  Just Another Reason For Me To Retire in Tennessee.

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                    #14
                    Originally posted by pandm View Post

                    Jan.
                    So....... you're posting the same thing on both sites?
                    At the same time?
                    I don't know exactly why, but it kinda makes me feel like I have fleas or something.
                    Carry on.
                    Originally posted by ChiefSailer View Post

                    Couldn't get the answer on LIF huh? SMDH!

                    He can post it on NY Firearms too, no one here will care. LIF might not want stuff posted on 2 sites, especially us since we are not an approved vendor.
                    Ben

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                    • Tonto
                      Tonto commented
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                      Damn, I forgot about them. Let me go log on right now...

                    • anothersteve
                      anothersteve commented
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                      That's funny shit right there

                    #15
                    Nice diagram.

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