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    Mike103
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    Naples and near by Marco Island are full of ex NYPD. The Chief of Marco Island sister was a the Chief of Personal in the NYPD.

    The Collier county sheriffs are fantastic.
  • SemiAutoFetish
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  • SemiAutoFetish
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    Maybe they actually like cops in those parts??? Good for him
  • SemiAutoFetish
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    Another reason why LI suburban life blows...it just costs too dam much!
  • bberetta1
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    Someone I know well from the NYPD just took the incentive that is being offered by DeSantis down in FL. He knows it will be a pay cut but he is thrilled to get out of here. He will be in Naples by next month.

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  • Dan 0351
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    Yes, like I posted, it could work out if you were to leave and go to another state. Not many I know are prepared to do that though due to kids in school, family that's local, etc.
  • Barnslayer
    It's still 9-11-01

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    The assumption is if you move to a place like TN or SC your mortgage would be a fraction of what you were dealing with on Long Island. Then there's property taxes. You've been looking, so you know it's common to have $2K a year instead of $20K.
    Hindsight is 20/20
  • Barnslayer
    It's still 9-11-01

  • Barnslayer
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    Originally posted by surly View Post
    I completely agree, but that's a whole problem in itself. Guys either chase the dollar or are scared of the uncertainty. Its hard to stop doing something you've done for 20+ years .Sounds like a no brainer but until you're in their shoes its all talk.
    It's much easier to say than do, but taking the risk while you're young is the optimum time. I missed the boat and regret having stayed in NY. It's much harder to find a job situation at the end of your career.

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  • Dan 0351
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    Originally posted by Barnslayer View Post

    I’d imagine the pay cut holds for just about any job leaving NY for a free state. But the reduction in cost of living is also pretty universal.
    It’s not what you make. It’s what you get to keep that counts.
    Regarding pension..... procrastination is your enemy. Get out while you’re young if at all possible..
    Sure, if you can just take your wife and kids and move away to another state, may very well be worth it. Going from making $120K in NYC to $25 - $30K after 3 years somewhere else may not work for many.
    I knew NYPD guys who almost didn't take NCPD or SCPD because of their mortgages and the extreme pay cut starting in those departments. Imagine having a mortgage and all other bills, making $120K, then having to go down to $35K for a few years, and not making that $120K until year 5, 6 or 7 in the new job. You'd lose $80K the first year, $70 the second year, 60 the next, etc. How many years of making the 'big bucks' of LI departments until you break even? It's not as easy a decision as you think, especially if you don't have a large savings account to draw from to make up the difference.

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  • oshwan
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    I'm shocked the percentage is only just over 50%

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  • Dan 0351
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      • @cm10005 commented
        11-24-2021, 10:17 AM
        Very true, but outside of the NYC area people think the NYPD is the greatest police department in the world. So, you have an advantage when getting hired outside of NY. If they only knew the truth lol.
    SO true. I've been to LE training all over the country and the NYPD always has a special place. Saying you're in the NYPD (especially in the crazy early 90's) was a complete Badge of Honor in LE circles - and still to me, for what they're going through on top of the criminal element.
    When I left the NYPD for a department in "East Cupcake, Long Island", I felt like I left the Marine Corps and joined the Air Force. Now there's certainly nothing wrong with the airdales, thank God for them, but I'd imagine it's very different. The AF is much easier and you treated much better.

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  • surly
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    Originally posted by Barnslayer View Post

    Get out while you’re young if at all possible..
    I completely agree, but that's a whole problem in itself. Guys either chase the dollar or are scared of the uncertainty. Its hard to stop doing something you've done for 20+ years .Sounds like a no brainer but until you're in their shoes its all talk.

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  • cm10005
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    Very true, but outside of the NYC area people think the NYPD is the greatest police department in the world. So, you have an advantage when getting hired outside of NY. If they only knew the truth lol.
  • Barnslayer
    It's still 9-11-01

  • Barnslayer
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    Originally posted by Dan 0351 View Post

    Yes, but what often happens is that they take the job and wind up not getting hired elsewhere for a host of reasons (including civilian complaints). Before they know it they have 12 - 15 years on the job and are pretty stuck. The initial pay cut going somewhere else can kill your dreams, as well as being pretty close to getting your 20-year pension.

    I used to say, "Take all the tests and take whatever job calls first and start your pension going." Not sure about that advice anymore.
    I’d imagine the pay cut holds for just about any job leaving NY for a free state. But the reduction in cost of living is also pretty universal.
    It’s not what you make. It’s what you get to keep that counts.
    Regarding pension..... procrastination is your enemy. Get out while you’re young if at all possible..

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  • Dan 0351
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  • Dan 0351
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    Originally posted by Trublu View Post

    Tell them to use it as a stepping stone to a better place its what alot of the young guys do, tell them to keep taking tests.
    Yes, but what often happens is that they take the job and wind up not getting hired elsewhere for a host of reasons (including civilian complaints). Before they know it they have 12 - 15 years on the job and are pretty stuck. The initial pay cut going somewhere else can kill your dreams, as well as being pretty close to getting your 20-year pension.

    I used to say, "Take all the tests and take whatever job calls first and start your pension going." Not sure about that advice anymore.
    Dan 0351
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    Last edited by Dan 0351; 11-24-2021, 09:33 AM.

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  • Barnslayer
    It's still 9-11-01

  • Barnslayer
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    Don't start your career working for a communist.

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